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Forums › XJBikes Talk › XJ Chat › KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE
KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

Ok guys.... Here is a cheaper and more efficient alternative to Kroil.

50/50 mix of Automatic Transmission Fluid and Acetone. Mix in a jar and screw on lid. When needed shake jar and apply with brush, and treat job as you would with Kroil. The mixture will separate, as most mixtures do, if left sitting long enough. Shake jar before use. It really does work.

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Some of you might appreciate this. Machinist's Workshop magazine tested penetrants for break out torque on rusted nuts.

They are below, as forwarded by an ex-student and professional machinist, Bud Baker.

They arranged a subjective test of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.

Penetrating oil ..... Average load

None ...................... 516 pounds

WD-40 ................... 238 pounds

PB Blaster ............... 214 pounds

Liquid Wrench ......... 127 pounds

Kano Kroil .............. 106 pounds

ATF-Acetone mix.......53 pounds

The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one particular test. Our local machinist group mixed up a batch and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

The only reliable test would be on the same nut, but that can't be done, so all results are subjective.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

True true..... But worth a go.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:19 pm    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

Interesting I wonder how just acetone would go....suspect the ATF is the carrier so the acetone doesn't evaporate immediately...

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:42 pm    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

Awesome. If I'm ever in ozzie-land, I'll take you to a bar.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

I've had Kroil work where Liquid Wrench didn't.

And at $6 a can for Kroil here in the USA, I dunno about all that much cheaper, either.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

i've tried ATF-Acetone mix and it works but the acetone part tears up most paint and some plastic
Kroil doesn't seem to

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNA Reply with quote

No dramas...... Most of my bikes are rats so no worries with the paint fryin up.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

bigfitz52 wrote:
I've had Kroil work where Liquid Wrench didn't.

And at $6 a can for Kroil here in the USA, I dunno about all that much cheaper, either.

especially for the 2for12 deal on the king aerokroil.

but nifty idea if it works and you're out of kroil! Cool

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

My brother in law uses this mix on the farm with great success. He has been an advocate for kroil for years but believes the home brew is quite a bit better.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 21, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: KROIL...... A CHEAPER AND MORE READILY AVAILABLE ALTERNATIVE Reply with quote

i think this is great Smile i'm def gonna give it a shot some time, yeah it will eat paint obviously, acetone. thanks!

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