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Forums › XJBikes Talk › XJ Modifications › 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project
83 SECA 650 Cafe Project
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

I dont see why it's "messed up" or "unrideable". I'm sure he rides the he*l out of it and dosent think it's messed up at all. Nor do I. Get back on your stocker and ride it with pride knowing it looks exactly like the 4000 that rolled off the assembly line ahead of it.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

The bike isn't "messed up". He built, he likes it, and thats all that matters. Kevineleven couldn't have said it better. If you don't like it thats fine, but don't bash it because it doesn't fit you. I think the bike looks great BTW, good job!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

ArizonaSteve wrote:
What's the reason for messing up a perfectly good bike by putting clubmans on it? That doesn't have any practical use does it?

Hahaha.
Uh Oh, we got a forum fire starter!

As I stated previously the clubmans gave me a much more aggressive positioning and made the bike hande better... However, if you notice the bike does not have clubmans anymore... so your comment doesn't really make sense.

Thanks for trying to heat things up though, lol.

P.S. Thanks Kevin and Maximuschop for having my back.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

ArizonaSteve wrote:
I still don't see the reason for messing up a perfectly good bike.
What good is it if it isn't rideable? Is it just going to sit in the living
room to look at?

For anyone who actually wants to know (i.e if you're not just trying to get a rise) the bike was completely rideable with the clubmans.
I loved the way it handled and felt.

If the clipon's didn't work out I would go right back.

It has never been sitting in my livingroom... I drive it everyday in the summer. It's my primary transportation.

Even though I changed to clipon's I still recommend clubmans as a great cheap upgrade, to get a sportier feeling bike.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

Ease wrote:
ArizonaSteve wrote:
I still don't see the reason for messing up a perfectly good bike.
What good is it if it isn't rideable? Is it just going to sit in the living
room to look at?

For anyone who actually wants to know (i.e if you're not just trying to get a rise) the bike was completely rideable with the clubmans.
I loved the way it handled and felt.

If the clipon's didn't work out I would go right back.

It has never been sitting in my livingroom... I drive it everyday in the summer. It's my primary transportation.

Even though I changed to clipon's I still recommend clubmans as a great cheap upgrade, to get a sportier feeling bike.


I think the bars look sick on there....Just because it has clubmans on it doesnt mean its not rideable I dont see where you get off saying its not rideable and "messing up a perfectly good bike". If he likes it thats his choice for HIS bike not yours

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:29 am    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

Dude,

I'm in agreement that the clubmans look sweet although with my back issues I'd last about 2.2 miles.

As for the Katana........Don't mess it up!!!!!!!!! That bike is a bloody work of art as it sits. You'd make me cry. I used to own one of those and really wished I had is back.

Don't mame it man.

The Buff Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

FWIW, I have clubmans on my 82 seca as well. No riding problems whatsoever. They do help the turn in ratio on handling and give a nice look to the bike. I also have a set of Euro bars that were alright but made me feell like a sail in the wind. Clipons would be nice but i don't have the spare cash right now. cruzerjd

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

Great_Buffalo wrote:
Dude,

I'm in agreement that the clubmans look sweet although with my back issues I'd last about 2.2 miles.

As for the Katana........Don't mess it up!!!!!!!!! That bike is a bloody work of art as it sits. You'd make me cry. I used to own one of those and really wished I had is back.

Don't mame it man.

The Buff Crying or Very sad

I won't, I promise. Very Happy

I will be restoring the Katana back to her original glory (silver with the stock sticker kit).

The styling has really grown on me, and the guys over at katriders and the gsr let me know that it's a bit of a rarity.

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PostPosted: Thu May 01, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

I just got my hands on an 82 seca and am considering moving the pegs back (ala: cafe racer style) With clubmans I need a more comfortable foot position. I have some pushrods and am looking for some possible bell cranks. I'm thinking it might be possible to use the existing rear foot pegs or the next hole forward. I'll have pictures if I come up with anything. Any thoughts on doing this yourself? Your seca looks great by the way!

Happy cafeinating,
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

rain-rat wrote:
I just got my hands on an 82 seca and am considering moving the pegs back (ala: cafe racer style) With clubmans I need a more comfortable foot position. I have some pushrods and am looking for some possible bell cranks. I'm thinking it might be possible to use the existing rear foot pegs or the next hole forward. I'll have pictures if I come up with anything. Any thoughts on doing this yourself? Your seca looks great by the way!

Happy cafeinating,
RR

IMO the passenger pegs are a little too far back with clubmans.
I think you're better off using the second hole as you suggested.
You might be able to get some raask or another pre-made rearset for out bikes but it would be $$$...

When I was considering it myself I tried mounting the passenger pegs in different locations to see how it felt:


Until I get another bike (for 2-up riding) I won't be venturing into this mod. But I'd like to see how you work it all out!

THanks for the compliments and good luck!

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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

Ease wrote:
rain-rat wrote:
I just got my hands on an 82 seca and am considering moving the pegs back (ala: cafe racer style) With clubmans I need a more comfortable foot position. I have some pushrods and am looking for some possible bell cranks. I'm thinking it might be possible to use the existing rear foot pegs or the next hole forward. I'll have pictures if I come up with anything. Any thoughts on doing this yourself? Your seca looks great by the way!

Happy cafeinating,
RR

IMO the passenger pegs are a little too far back with clubmans.
I think you're better off using the second hole as you suggested.
You might be able to get some raask or another pre-made rearset for out bikes but it would be $$$...

When I was considering it myself I tried mounting the passenger pegs in different locations to see how it felt:


Until I get another bike (for 2-up riding) I won't be venturing into this mod. But I'd like to see how you work it all out!

THanks for the compliments and good luck!
Thanks, Ease, for the pics and info. I found some 72 xs rear pegs that are a bit trimmer (same stud size and pitch) and I think I'll mess with them today. I'll let you know what I discover with different positions and get some pics posted.


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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 6:59 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

... Not an update on the bike, but I just wanted to post my opinion on something.

I changed my profile to contain a pic of my bike in every post, but this is an example of what I consider a decent size.

If anyone thinks it's too large or takes concentration away from their post please let me know and I'll remove it immediately.

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

Ease wrote:
... Not an update on the bike, but I just wanted to post my opinion on something.

I changed my profile to contain a pic of my bike in every post, but this is an example of what I consider a decent size.

If anyone thinks it's too large or takes concentration away from their post please let me know and I'll remove it immediately.

Looks Good to me! Cool

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun May 04, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 83 SECA 650 Cafe Project Reply with quote

low-1-5-0 wrote:

Looks Good to me! Cool

Thanks!

The picture is taken from the security booth at the Cabot garage. Very Happy
(Worked security for the delta/mile one for a couple of years part time).

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