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Forums › XJBikes Talk › XJ Modifications › off set triple clamps for more rake?
off set triple clamps for more rake?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

is there anyone out there that sells a set of off set triple clamps go give it more rake without cutting the heaqd tube?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 6:21 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

there's a few companys that make them for harleys - but very doubtful for the xj's.

the kits for the harleys are $1300 - $3000 - it's all CNC billet.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

well, looks like im cutting my head tube lol

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:19 am    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

BakoMack wrote:
well, looks like im cutting my head tube lol

Is this a cosmetic or peformance change?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

mostly cosmetic and a performance down grade I think lol

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

You can get much much cheaper raked triple tress off ebay for around 100+

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

any links plz?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

I hope that this is not taken the wrong way, but before you do anything to rake your front end, please read on as I have been down this road while customizing my Maxim-X. I spent considerable time researching the rake issue and if you do not do it right, your handling will become unstable or even dangerous. As modifying a motorcycle frame by cutting and welding is illegal up here, I had to look at the triple tree option. The big issue with just buying a raked triple tree is that your "Trail" will change dramatically in many cases. Trail on my bike is calculated at 4.3 inches and I wantd to keep that figure as close as possible. The only way to accomplish this was to buy an "engineered triple tree" which takes the specifications of your bike model and then engineers a triple tree designed to maintain the trail at what the bike manufacturer specifies. Unfortunately, the cost is high, but with my safety at risk, I felt that if I was to do this custom job right, I would have to accept any cost associated with staying alive to ride. I ordered an engineered triple tree from AME (Germany) through the US distributor. Since they had never built one for a Maxim, they needed a whole lot of more info. Now that I have the front end, they are offering the kits for our bikes without difficulty. I chose a 9 degree rake with a 4 inch over size in the fork tubes. The look is awesome!! On their website, you can choose various rakes and over lengths depending on the model. It has the German TUV engineering approval which is far more stringent than our DOT standards. Sorry this post is so long but I wanted to make my point that if you want to modify your rake angle, PLEASE do your research on the net before doing anything...it's your safety and that of your passengers that is important. Good luck with your build!
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:43 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

BakoMack wrote:
any links plz?

No, they are come and go. Also, they are very hard to find to fit our 35mm forks, usually they are for bigger forks.

Best bet is to get one custom made.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

johno8, no appologies are necessary! Your concern for the well being of your fellow bike enthusiest is a very welcome perspective. I don't know of anyone here who would complain about safety concerns. I'm very please you were able to find someone (pitty it wasn't domestic) who was willing and able to accomplish the design you had in mind. Thanks for the tip, be sure to post the link in our link section.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:43 am    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

That's great to know...thanks for the encouragement. Here are some links on raking a frame for those needing more info. I'll also put them in the link section.
www.harley-davidson-choppers.com/
www.rbracing-rsr.com/r...trail.html

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

well, my dad rides an older FXR and he cut the head tube and raked it him self, its been his daily driver for over 3 years now. since my motor is out he said it would be easy to do mine I was just hoping there was a solution other than cutting some more on the frame, but I am not gonna spend that much to get a little more rake, i'll just have him rake it a little more.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

As long as he makes the proper jig for your frame, it should be ok. I just didn't want you to buy a cheap raked triple tree and slap it on your bike. God luck and safe riding.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:19 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

there are rake kits and complete chopper kits for metrics, and yeah its expensive but they look kickass!! the one for a virago might even bolt up to your bike....

www.seegercycle.com/in...tegory=175

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: off set triple clamps for more rake? Reply with quote

Wow!!

Johno... That is some CRAZY work you're doing on that X. When do you think you'll finish? I hope you'll post more pics of your progress.

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