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XJ650RJ Project

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Dan Gardner, Mar 20, 2022.

  1. Dan Gardner

    Dan Gardner Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Well, this XJ650RJ followed me home. Since they were 1982 only here in the states you don't see too many of them around, so I thought it would be a fun project.

    Needs a good amount of work, so I'm going to go for pretty much a full restore as time and budget allows. I figure 2 or 3 years.

    PO said that the PPO destroyed the tank, so there is currently a Maxim tank on it.

    It has been sitting for 9-10 years. I pulled the carb rack and cleaned them up and bit and it ran, so at least it's a runner.

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    Got the front brake calipers off. Managed to get the pistons out - one took some patience and a consistent application of air pressure, but eventually it popped out. As an extra bonus, I didn't lose any fingers in the process. There was some pretty nasty goo in the lines that must have been brake fluid at some point. Going to need full master cylinder and caliper rebuild and new lines - but that may be a while until we get to that stage of the project!!

    First question for the group: The calipers don't seem like they've been painted, but the ends of the "ribs" are black. Did the calipers originally have the exposed/polished ribs, or were they all black?
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    Pretty sure they were black, my RJ came stock from original owner and is all black.
     
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    A fun machine to ride! Going into my second season with my xj650 rj it has a nice layout that suits me; foot pegs back bars low and short. Nice powerband handles well with new tires. You have a great ride in the making , good luck with the refresh!
     
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    you can sand the paint off of the ribs to expose the aluminim
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    650 maxims had exposed aluminum lines, 650 secas were black
     
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    Dan Gardner Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Having trouble thinking of a name for this bike, so for now it's "Jane Doe". I have a funny feeling that name will probably stick.

    It is now torn down to basically a frame, engine, front and rear wheels, and the airbox.

    Not too many surprises (so far). First surprise hack job was hidden in the headlight bucket. The clutch switch was bypassed:
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    The next surprise (really just a mystery) is some booger welds on the frame - below the exhaust but above the crash bars. If I didn't know better, I would think somebody welded on some DIY highway bars, but I have no real idea what would have been welded here or why:
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    Four valve lash measurements were out of spec. I had one needed shim on hand, 3 more on the way to bring all of them into spec. Removing the cover over the pickup coil to turn the engine by hand was no easy task. Who knows when the last valve lash check was done??

    Exhaust collector seems pretty good. A little rusty but salvageable. The chrome bits look pretty good. The down pipes need to be re-chromed. Would also like to get the muffler cans re-chromed if possible.

    I was able to find a trashy (read: affordable) right side cover on eBay and repair it. The left side cover that came with the bike also had a crack and needed repair. Both are now ready for primer.
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    May be welded some holes in the frame
     
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    Dan Gardner Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    That’s a possibility I guess. I kind of hope that is not the case. Couldn’t bode well for the rest of the frame if it was holy way up there!
     
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    Grind it off and see what’s under there
     
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    Good news. It looks like clean frame underneath.
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    Now the bad news...

    The bike is comepletely torn down now. I inspected the frame. Most of it looks pretty good. Except for one crack sort of by the side stand.

    Does anybody know if this is common and/or have any advice? I'm thinking I'm going to find a metal shop that can do the repair.
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    Yeah, that happens.............water accumulates in the down tube, I believe there is a weep hole down there somewhere but it gets plugged up and then that's the result. Unfortunately that bend is a high-stress point and any weakening of the metal there results in a crack......and it's not easy to fix properly. Others will chime in on how they have handled it.
     
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    Dan, a lot of people cut a section of good frame from a junk frame and weld it in. Send me a text message with a little bit bigger pic so I can see right where that is.... I think I can cut a section off of a dead rj frame for you
     
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    Dave is the world's greatest un-sung hero!
     
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    Yes, indeed!!
     
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    I would add layer of slightly larger diameter tubing (same wall thickness) over the bottom of that rusty tube, extend the overlap maybe 1.5" on either side of the crack for 3" total. I would be wary of cutting out a piece of the frame, alignment would be my concern, and unless you sleeve the tubes you still only have a butt weld for strength. To get the brake pistons out (more safely) next time use a grease gun, grease will push the pistons out and not pop them out due to high pressure build up. Or soak them in 50% acetone and 50% auto transmission fluid.
    Cheers, 50gary
     
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    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    Agree, grease is the safe way to go.

    frame... if a patch is made from the correct part then it’s straightforward... I know some people have made the hole, the weld supports/overlaps on the inside, the v- and weld carefully fitted replacement pieces on. Goood welding skills are obviously essential.
     
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    That’s why I outsource a project like this
     
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    Post-electrolysis power wash.
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