haynes manual "mistakes"

following on from "fitz's" mini maintenance quiz in an earlier post, i came across a very obvious mistake in a friends haynes manual,
admittedly its for a honda cx500, but could also apply to any bike.

see if you can spot the mistake in the wiring diagram. it appears in almost all cx500 wiring diagrams, on the net and in the manual.
its nothing too technical.
stu

 

Having just gotten home from work I only did a fast once-over of the diagram. The mistake that jumped out right away is that they spelled color wrong.

 

ha, ha,
nope, from oxford English dictionary.
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Definition of colour in English


colour

Pronunciation: /ˈkʌlə/



(US color)

Translate colour | into French | into German | into Italian | into Spanish


noun

1 [mass noun] the property possessed by an object of producing different sensations on the eye as a result of the way it reflects or emits light:

the lights flickered and changed colour


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Besides both the stop and tail lamps being illustrated as dual-filament bulbs when one of them only has two leads? From the circuit diagram, one is an 1156 and the other an 1157.

Or the clutch and neutral switches not being illustrated as switches when the other switches clearly are?

Or maybe that the headlight is shown as having a single filament when it has three leads into it?

Or the "indicator relay" with only two leads when by definition a "relay" would have to have more than two?

Or is it even more obvious?

Pretty shabby work; I'm surprised, I always thought Honda was more on top of their game. Haynes didn't do that, they lifted it from a Honda publication just like all of the diagrams in the Yammie manuals were heisted from Yamaha documents.

 

nope,


even more obvious,
though they are also mistakes,yes they have missed the green earth off the lower stop/tail bulb, and as you say, dont show the switches correctly.
but no, they're not the one i meant.
stu

 

That's not too bad. Easy enough to catch. When these manual's really cause harm is when they quote wrong torque values. I have seen a lot of people strip their cam cap bolts on Z1's and KZ's. Myself, I came very close to stripping my cam chain tensioner on my KZ. The Clymer had a wrong torque value in the body of the instructions, but had the correct value in the back of the chapter where it stated all the torque values in a table. I make sure I have the real deal factory service manual in order to avoid these issue witch can be very costly. Worth the extra money for the factory version.

 

is it the diode symbol in the fuse box?

CN

 

Two regulators? :?

 

nope and nope.
the diode "is" in the fusebox, its in the centre of the handlebars.
the "other" regulator" is for stabalising the guages.

its simpler than that.
stu

 

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but looks like there's only two spark plug leads coming out of the coils and the CX 500 is a 4 cyl. I'm pretty shite at reading this stuff tho, maybe that's always the case.

 

Pretty sure the CX500 is a V twin. Looks like two tea kettles coming off the sides. What about the two bulbs in the tail light?

 

it is a v twin.
the tail light is a twin bulb unit.
stu

 

Bikes usually have two horns, and the diagram shows only one.

 

nope,

ok, so i'll give you a little clue.

to be sung to the tune of, (doh- rey- me,) from The Sound of Music


"lets start at the very beginning"
"a very good place to start"
"when you sing you begin with doh-ray- me"
"when you (TRACE) you begin with BAT-TE-RY

stu

 

the starter relay is wrong, R/W & R should move to the left

 

the main system is not connected to the battery positive. or more directly is wired to the wrong side of the starter solenoid.

CN

 

did you sing that song while you were looking ?

 

YES<YES<YES.
pollock and cyclenoob got it.

the wires that supply power to the main fuse and to the ignition switch are wired to the OUTGOING side of the starter relay, they should be wired to the INCOMING side i.e. the battery side of the relay.
as it is the , bike cannot receive any power at all, so nothing on the bike can work
well done.
stu

 

I saw that early on, but it didn't register.

CN

 

its alsoan easy mistake to do phisically, as the relay terminals are only an inch or so apart, so it would be easy to put the lead on the wrong terminal

dunno about other xj's but my 600 has the feed wires crimped into the same crimp as the large battery cable on the relay, so making it imposible to put it onto the wrong one
stu