1. Hello Guest. You have limited privileges and you can't "SEARCH" the forums. Please "Log In" or "Sign Up" for additional functionality. Click HERE to proceed.

I think I figured out the oil leak

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by deadecho25, Jun 3, 2016.

  1. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    When I bought the bike the PO said there was a small oil leak. Drained the oil this morning and I think I found the problem. Yup a stripped oil pan.
     

    Attached Files:

  2. Jetfixer

    Jetfixer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,179
    Likes Received:
    1,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Nothern Indiana
    Either get a heli-coil or replace pan ( I would opt for replacement -less chance of metal particles getting into sump if you try replacing without pulling.)
     
  3. joeperezis

    joeperezis Member

    Messages:
    46
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    8
    Location:
    Hudson, Illinois
    I recommend replacing the pan. There are plenty you can find on E-bay etc. Perhaps someone on this site might have a extra one they are willing to part with. If you do replace, remember to replace the o-ring on the oil level sensor when you swap the sensor into the new pan.
     
  4. Jetfixer

    Jetfixer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,179
    Likes Received:
    1,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Nothern Indiana
  5. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Pulling the pan now. $40 shipped isn't bad at all
     
  6. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    So uh is this bad or am I over reacting?
     
  7. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    On one of the headers, it looks like someone tried to TIG a bolt back onto the block. :/
     
  8. k-moe

    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

    Messages:
    19,613
    Likes Received:
    6,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The City of Seven Hills
    A piggyback drain plug costs about $6 and takes 5 minutes to install. Any good autoparts store will have them on the shelf.
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  9. k-moe

    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

    Messages:
    19,613
    Likes Received:
    6,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The City of Seven Hills
    Take a photo. Hopefully it's just slag/ melting from removing a broken stud. Steel and aluminum don't weld (well they can, but not without some expensive filler).
     
    Jetfixer likes this.
  10. Alan63

    Alan63 Active Member

    Messages:
    185
    Likes Received:
    27
    Trophy Points:
    28
    Location:
    Saskatoon,sask. Canada
    What is a piggy bank drain plug ,? I'm curious!
    Alan
     
  11. k-moe

    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

    Messages:
    19,613
    Likes Received:
    6,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The City of Seven Hills
    It's a self-tapping plug that threads into a stripped hole, and has another smaller plug in it. The piggyback gets threaded in, and is usually sealed with threadlocking compound so it can't come back out. Then the smaller plug is used to drain the sump. There are also oversize drain plugs available, but there may be clearance issues with an oversize plug since the drain hole is recessed.

    [​IMG]
     
    Jetfixer and DrewUth like this.
  12. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Sorry for the late reply I work nights and didn't see this until now. I tried an oversized plug and the darn thing wouldn't thread in. I tried tapping to a 5/8 inch bolt and still wouldno tap. :/

    As for the header looks like my photo didn't upload. Don't worry about the break in the exhaust I'll fix that before I ride it again. 1465024555059709795573.jpg 1465024606463728257582.jpg 1465024555059709795573.jpg 1465024606463728257582.jpg 1465024555059709795573.jpg 1465024606463728257582.jpg
     
  13. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Sorry for the multiple pictures. Still trying to figure the forum out
     
  14. k-moe

    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

    Messages:
    19,613
    Likes Received:
    6,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The City of Seven Hills
    That stud is fubard.

    The easy, but slow, method to remove the reminant is to make a dam/cup with modeling clay on the head so liquid can stay in contact woth the stud remnant. Mix alum (from the gorcery store) in warm water. The alum solution will dissolve the steel over the course of a few days, leaving the aluminum threads undamaged.


    It looks like someone has been inside of that engine. Yamaha did not use orange RTV during assembly.
     
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2016
  15. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Thanks I'll try that soon.
     
  16. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    So I received my new oil pan, just waiting for the gaskets from Len. I might have found the cause. The plug on the right is from the new pan. I don't have a caliper but it appears that the left one, the one that my bike came with, is already an oversized plug. 14653246372741512891579.jpg
     
  17. k-moe

    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

    Messages:
    19,613
    Likes Received:
    6,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    The City of Seven Hills
  18. Crimson9mm

    Crimson9mm New Member

    Messages:
    26
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Tonawanda ny
    looks just like the cut off bolt i used as a plug on my old honda....
     
  19. Jetfixer

    Jetfixer Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,179
    Likes Received:
    1,489
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Nothern Indiana
    P.O. unless it is someone you know well, never believe them my favorite "well maintained" = dumped some oil in it . "Carbs professionally cleaned"= used some spray cleaner on the outside of carbs . "Noise will go away once it warms up" =the motor Honey takes up all the clearance . Man that is a bad deal on the stud agree try K-Moe's
    method before trying anything else. Good luck
     
    Crimson9mm likes this.
  20. deadecho25

    deadecho25 New Member

    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Location:
    Minnesota
    a $500 bike i knew there would be issues. But why would over tighten a drain plug multiple times on different plugs? and what is the deal with trying to weld that header stud back on? wouldn't it be easier to get a new stud?
     

Share This Page