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STARTER RELAY OR BUTTON ISSUE?

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Sam S, Nov 7, 2021.

  1. Dan Gardner

    Dan Gardner Active Member Premium Member

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    Yes, unfortunately my bikes are resting comfortably for the next few months.

    One of the recurring themes with these bikes is the age of the brake lines. If you have squishy brake lever that might be part of the problem. I don't have that much experience personally - my winter to-do list includes rebuilding MC and caliper for my XJ650J, then replace brake lines when I put it together in the spring. It will be interesting to me to see how much different the brake feel is once everything is re-done.
     
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  2. Dan Gardner

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    Another disclaimer - I'm no expert. But I would think if you had that much vacuum leakage on the intake side that you would have a hell of a time with carb adjustments and idle creep.
     
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  3. Sam S

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    Good point on old brake lines. I'll see when I bleed them.
    I do get idle creep - at least it creeps to zero rpm if I don't hang onto throttle a bit when stopped. Also can't choke it more than half way cause it doesn't do anything the second half. Makes it a bear to start in cold weather.
     
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    Sam If I am reading this correctly you have an 82 with the original brake lines? Big Fitz put up a great post about Why you need to replace your brake lines. Those lines will be 40 years old in the spring they were made to last 4. After replacing my lines I found that reverse bleeding works very well. Get a syringe and crack open the banjo bolt at the master cylinder (highest point in the system) then push the fluid up the brake line through the bleeder valve rather than trying to push the air bubble down to the caliper. The bleeder valve will only get air out of the caliper piston. It also took a lot of squeezing the brake ever to expand the piston to the brake pad before I got any resistance on the lever. That is a tiny master cylinder and it does not move much fluid with each pull. But that is also what gives enough mechanical advantage to be able to stop your bike with just your hand.
     
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    Thanks again Jeff! I will definitely 'reverse' bleed to see if it improves. Then get some new line. Wow, only 4 years and I got close to 40.
    Thanks for the link to Big Fritz's post. Do you have a good source for the line?
     
  6. Dan Gardner

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    The safe option is always @chacal at xj4ever.com.

    I think it depends on model, but he's usually got several options including OEM and various aftermarket options.
     
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    Thanks. I'll see what he's got.
     
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    He sells both the stainless and standard rubber. FYI if you've never had stainless before, they do not flex like the rubber lines and noticeably changes the brake feel. Most of my bikes have stainless from Chacal and I like the change, just a heads up as it will have a little less travel and be less spongy if you go that route. They look cool too.
     
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    that certainly is a gem of a bike. i honestly can't decide whether i like the red or the black the best., mine is experiencing the same solenoid problem yours was. gonna check it when this cold snap is over here in Pink, Okla.
     

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