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xs1100 oil cooler adapter

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by samsr, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. samsr

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    Does anyone know if a oil cooler adapter off of a XS1100 will fit on a xj750j. I want to put an oil cooler on my bike for the summer. The adapter seems to be the hardest thing to find.
     
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    Don't know of an Aftermarket one but the Widely used Yama one is simply a oil filter housing diameter Ali ring with a longer centre bolt. Dead simple.
    No luck at a wreckers??
    I would have thought these would have been plentifull.
     
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    The XS750/850/1100 oil filters and other related parts have a significantly larger diameter, and I don't think they are interchangeable with the XJ parts.

    If you go with a non-Yamaha OEM-type cooler and/or wafer adapter, you'll need to make some hoses and create an oil-cooler mounting system. Hose clamps are not a good idea, despite their popularity.

    The 650 Turbo oil cooler is a direct bolt-on, all you need to fab is a small bracket to attach the coolers' hoses to the front of the head. The o-ring seals and the little rubber grommet that fits the coolers' upper mount is still available from Yamaha. The hose stay/bracket is OOS.

    XJ 900 parts will fit, although the cooler itself is a lot bigger, so the two lower mounting holes of the cooler are ~1" too low: you'll need to create a simple adapter bracket to use it on a 750 or 650.

    It would be cheaper, and a lot less trouble, to just bite the bullet and chase one down on EBay or Craigslist. The stock parts are an easy 15 minute bolt on, and won't leak. The Yamaha wafer adapter has a blowoff valve, and the system is sized to work with our bikes. You should be able to find all the bits for ~$100.00

    The Canadian and European 650 and 750 Secas all had oil coolers, try looking at UK sources for the parts you're after.

    I've got a 650 Turbo oil cooler mounted on my 650 Seca that has a 750 engine. The oil cooler installation took only about an hour; most of the time was used for whittling up the hose bracket. I had new o-rings for the lower hose connections, but the ones that came with the cooler didn't leak.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. Oil cooler I have found is the easy part. The hard part is the adapter. I will try the europen ebay and get back with you.
     
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    Do you also have the stock hoses?.

    I'll keep an eye out for one on Ebay, as they seem to pop up at odd hours when I'm up & online anyway...got mine for $50.00 complete when someone in Canada put one up with a low BIN price. :lol:

    Watch for anyone breaking up a 900 Seca, then e-mail the seller about the adapter wafer if it's not posted for sale.
     

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    Shozbot!

    First item on the parts list, shown as available, a bit less than $50.00.
     
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    I have a oil cooler and lines from an 900 seca coming. I also e-mailed about the adapter. Guess I will find out sooned or later. Thanks for the info. I will let you know what happens.
     
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    I was able to use an XS 850 oil cooler adapter with no problems. Threaded right in. The plates however were just too big. Not sure about the 1100.
     
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    Hmmm ...I have a Spare everything in that exploded parts Diagram.
    Told you it was simple.
     
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    Would you be willing to part with the adapter? Or would you sell the whole spare assembly? I would like to get one on the bike befor summer hits again which, might be tomorrow or in three months. You never know about weather in colorado. We had rideable weather here the past two days. Just too much sand on the road to make it halfway safe. PM me if you willing to part with it, please.
     
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    I would think so.. I have a spare Cuz it came as part of a replacement FJ600 '89 motor we are using as a parts Donor for juniors Bike.
    There is a small dent in the top row of the cooler.(cosmetic, but you should know about this beforehand.) everything else could use a good cleanup, but is in V good to perfect condition.
    Pricing? no greed will happen, but junior needs to amortize some of the cost of his 'new' motor, and every little bit helps... I will have to ask him though.
    Ohhhh I will measure the adapter ring dimension tonite to be sure it will fit yours.
     
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    It will. Yamaha used the same oil filter and housing into the early 90's.

    My Seca and my FZR are identical.

    Good of you to let it go to a deserving home. :)
     
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    I appreciate it very much. Those are harder to find south of the border. Coolers seem abundant but people seem to keep the adapter attached to the engine. I am not sure why they just do. I guess they just sell it with the motor. Just let me know how much and how and where to send it. Take paypal?
     
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    Sigh.. working on it.. some unfounded reticence on junior's part to 'lose' what he thinks a potentially necessary part. Not true, but obviously there is convincing needed
     
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    Thanks for the update. Luckuly wont be riding for a while. Just want to get ready for spring.
     
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    I found an adapter on fleabay. Price was right 17.31 with shipping. It is coming from England. Now all I have to do is come up with the mounting bolt for it and I am in business. Thanks for the help
     
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    Have you been watching EBay?. I just picked this up for ~$60.00, and another set was sold a week earlier for a bit more.

    It's for a friend's bike, but if he changes his mind I'll sell it here.
     

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    looks like you were the one that out bid me on that one. That bites. Yup been watching.
     
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    I wasn't willing to go over $75.00, and it's worth quite a bit more.

    If the plans at present don't happen, I'll let you know.

    Have you been looking worldwide, or only in The Colonies?. I've got a boneyard contact in the UK if you'd like to try there.

    Better luck next time.
     
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    I have the adapter coming from the UK right now. Hopefully I get it by the beginning of next week. I am just trying to get ready for next summer. I will probably get the bolt from old bike barn next week or later on this week. Thanks
     
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    I got everything together and installed. I do have a question though. Does the check valve go at the top or bottom?. Right now I have it at the bottom, which causes the oil filter housing to be mounted up side down now. I dont think it makes a difference though. Let me know If I am wrong. Now I just have to make two mounting plates for the cooler itself. The one off the 900 seca is a bit large but I believe it will work well. Looks pretty good on the bike too. Now I just need a warmer day to ride. Total cost $38.00
    By the way, I had to turn the housing counterclockwise in order to clear the exhaust. With the 4 into 1 it is a tight fit. Maybe I will look into a remote filter and a block off plate. Incorporate the oil cooler lines with a spin on filter. I guess it would be something to work on. I will let you guys know my findings. Thanks for the help. :D
     
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    The little spring-loaded valve in the adapter goes on the bottom. It's actually a blowoff valve so you don't pop the oil cooler when the oil is cold. Don't tighten the big hollow adapter bolt until you've connected the oil cooler fittings to the adapter.

    When installed, the oil filter cover should be rotated slightly to the right when viewed from the front, at almost a one o'clock position, so the little alignment tab on the cover lines up with a gap in the case fins. Upside down is OK...just don't overtighten the filter cover bolt.

    It takes a bit of minor weaseling to get the filter cover back into place even with a stock exhaust system. The oil cooler adapter moves things a bit further away from the engine, so it's a little easier to R&R the filter housing at oil change time.
     
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    is it at all necessary to install an oil cooler onto a XJ550 that drives in a lot of stop and go traffic? Will something like what you got off of ebay even fit on an XJ550? I'm thinking about possibly installing an oil cooler to help save the oil a little life... What bike should I type into eBay to search for an old oil cooler setup?

    how about this?
    eBay Oil Cooler

    Thanks in advance...
     
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    Not exactly confidence inspiring.

    At the very least some hardware to attach the adapter to the engine seems to be missing.
     
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    Depends on the ambient temperature you regularly ride in and the type of oil you use. If your using good old fashioned dino oil and it's over 70 F, I'd think about the cooler. Otherwise, no.
     
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    As an added bonus the bike will probably hold another 3/4 quart oil. Go to love having clean oil in the old girl. More oil is gooder. Cooler oil and more oil = very gooder. :D Well worth the time looking and the investment. Cant wait to take her out for a ride.
    I am not sure this set up will fit the 550. But I am sure someone here knows.
     
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    thanks...it looks kinda damaged so I'll keep looking.
     
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    They are harder to find than you would think. It took me a couple of months to find all the parts. I pieced mine together. Took a while but is worth the effort.
     
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    The cooler on my Max is off a 900. I had to do some serious fabricating to get it on there.

    I used the captive nuts for the horns as attachment points for a mounting plate to hold the cooler.
    You can't run the Mounting Post on the top of the 900 cooler into the brazed-on fitting meant for the smaller coolers. If you do ... the lower section of the tree hits the top-outsides of the cooler when the steering goes lock-to-lock.

    The solution is to fabricate an extension for the cooler top mounting post.
    I used Nylon bushings available at hardware stores.

    I kept the cooler "Shock mounted" by stacking eight O-rings on the Post.
    Then, I pressed-on a Nylon bushing that snuggly fit over all the O-rings.
    The trick was to insert another nylon bushing into the ID of the bush over the O-rings, with the OD fitting the ID and epoxy-ed in strong.

    The OD of the new Upper Post fits the ID of the rubber shock within the stock braze-on ... on the frame.

    Adjust the distance ... the upper nylon bush ... fits into the braze-on ... by adding or removing O-rings ... to the Outside Diameter of the new Upper post ... until the steering can go lock-to-lock ... and miss hitting the top of the over-sized cooler.

    I take a pic or two when I can get to it.
    But, you got the picture, already ... right?
     
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    I will have to read this about 100 more times to "get the picture". I believe this is where a picture is worth 1000 words. :lol:
     

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