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Taillight issue

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by jonathancvb, Jun 30, 2021.

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    jonathancvb New Member

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    I have a (new to me) '82 750 Maxim. The right side indicators were not looking. Upon further diagnosis I found that the weld on this connector (see photo) was broken and it was no longer contacting the bulb. Does anyone know the correct name for this part, where I could purchase and how to install?

    Also, in my infinite wisdom I chose to snip it off the wire. Please don't ask me why but perhaps I can still salvage the old one?

    Thank you in advance!
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    Looks to me like any old crimp connector, your pic it to blurry to see connection end in detail. Where was it connected to pic as well will help too.
     
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    jonathancvb New Member

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    Yes, so this connected to the bulb socket in the taillight housing. The bulb, when installed, contacts this part to give it power.
     
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    Need to replace bulb socket. You could be looking at 2 options.....if u want a restored fix look into a used assembly, or possibly repair this one, but I will need more pics to help you determine how to go about it. Or you can find a bulb socket for your bulb number online but I will need to see the old brake housing to assist with mounting it.

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/292893785479?hash=item4431d47d87:g:a18AAOSwPGtcG6bu
     
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    Ok, I will get some photos and provide more information. I apologize because I mis-described this a little bit I think.. this specific issue is for the RIGHT, REAR BLINKER, not the main taillight.
     
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    OEM signals ae very similar and are incandescent with same voltage draw and heat production. But not a consistent power draw. If you want oem look, but updated light, you can remove the lens cover an pull new socket wires thorough the housing and stem. But install an led bulb. But led's while better, don't have the same resistance or power draw and will cause either a faster blink rate or not blink at all. Need to know what your intentions are as to restore or upgrade the system?

    I can't count as to how many people buy an led light and then problems arise that then get brought to me for fixing. These bikes electrical systems were not designed for led's. So modification will be required weather its the introduction of a load resistor (which get hot and still have a higher power draw) or update wire routing with a (no load) flasher unit. The last option is the upgrade, first is a mod with no real benefits to electrical system.
     
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    I am a very novice mechanic let alone a low-voltage electrician. I think I would stick to OEM and incandescent and just restore what I have. All I am looking to do is fix the issue you so I have a working signal. Here are some photos if it adds any clarification. Thank you for your help.

    As you can see in the photos, the bottom of the bulb socket is empty. The wire/connector I showed in my original post is to run to the hole in the bulb socket. Can I replace just the bulb socket or do I have to purchase an entirely new housing?

    EDIT: As I posted this I realized I never actually tried to remove the socket from the housing. I will try that next and perhaps I will answer my own question...
     

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    Understandable, with that said you have a specialty mount socket, you can buy a bulb socket for your bulb number off Amazon or ebay. Now its not going to have a mount like that one u have with two bolt hole for side mount, but you don't buy it for its mount. You want to take the contact plate out of it and slip it into your broke socket. Basically giving you a new signal socket. The one below has two contacts inside the plate, you may need the single contact type. If you give me your bulb number I will find you the socket.

    https://www.amazon.com/WMYCONGCONG-...1&keywords=1157+socket&qid=1625189164&sr=8-13

    Chances are you won't find a new socket that mounts like yours, so just buy the one you need and rob its guts...lol
     
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    There is a thread on here for xj700 parts in the parts section, he may have an entire signal for you.
     
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    Sorry for the long delay in replying.

    Bulb number is A12V27W:1156 (see photo)

    Ok thanks again for the information. Do I have to run the wires from the contact plate back to its source (fuse box?) or can I just snip and splices the new wiring to the existing?
     

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    The new socket internals placed in your original bulb mount just use new wires from pigtail (new socket) to your existing signal wires.

    Do check to see location of the ground wire. Some older bulb sockets use bulb socket/mount point as the ground. If you have 2wires from bike side just wire power and ground to those. If you don't know which one is which, use a standard test light with the signal switch turns on. Test light will blink indicating power wire.
     
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    I want to say yes, but no guarantees it will fit. Better locate one with a similar metal socket like old one.

    Also single contact inside uses mount bass as ground like I mentioned.
     
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    Ok, I don't fully understand the wiring/grounding issue.... I have 2 wires coming from the bike side I believe.

    Do you know if those style sockets are sold at stores commonly? I would like to pick one up to make sure the size is correct instead of ordering online.
     
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    Some stores may have them...the inner contact board is just a fiberglass, and can be trimmed on edges to fit if necessary.
     
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    Thanks again for all your help. I was able to find a new pigtail and get it installed today. Now, my left signal works for the first time since owning the bike. I am quite excited. Next task... rebuild the master cylinder. Just waiting for the rebuild kit to arrive :D

    Cheers,
     
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