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Tire balance

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by jdrich48, Jan 11, 2006.

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    I'm doing my forks right now, so while the wheel was off I dismounted the tire and bead blasted the wheel and I'm getting ready to paint it.
    Can I have the tire balanced before I install it, or does it have to be on the bike to balance it. New guy never had experence with tires.
     
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    The tire/wheel 'should' be balanced off the bike. It's standard practice so don't worry. :)
     
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    Thanks Mr. Fork
     
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    Mr. Fork is right, balancing is done off the vehicle. This applies to cars as well :wink:. Just take the wheel with the tire on to your local motocycle shop and they will balance it for you.
     
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    I'm getting ready to have my wheel balanced, but I have another question. I'm going to install the new wheel bearings tomorrow, but I'm not so sure I want to install the seals before I get it balanced. Don't want them to possibly get damaged. Now the question, Is there any reason why they would need to be installed in order to have it balanced? I know that the rotor must be installed. Can't tell by the pic, but the paint and the shine are great.
    Thanks
     

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    Seals don't much matter I suppose - they won't affect the balancing of the wheel. If you want to leave 'em off, go for it. I'd put them on though -- chances of them damaging the outer seals is very slim, but possible contamination of the new bearings? Well - it's enough for me to want to seal them.
     
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    Richard - that wheel looks great!

    What paint did you use on the spokes?
     
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    If you have removed the old bearings then you need to install the new ones for them to balance it. Bike wheels are static balanced. First you locate the heavy spot on the rim by placing the wheel on a bench mounted axel and seeing if a heavy spot settles. A heavy spot will rotate down. New bearings will increase this sensitivity. Then they mount the tire according to the small gold or yellow dot on the new tire. Can't remember but this either aligns with the heavy spot on the wheel or opposes it. Then place the tire and wheel on the bench axel and check for a heavy spot and attach the correct counter weight to balance.
     
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    I used Dupli-color acrylic laquer gloss black, I know there supposed to be semi-gloss but
    I wanted to match the fuel tank I painted.
    Bought the paint at advance auto parts.
     
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    I just mounted my tire and inflated to 42 lbs. It's still leaking around the bead, I beat on the sidewalls around the rim, still leaking.
    How much air can I safely put in the tire to see if that will seat it? 60 lbs?
    And yes the rim and tire were both clean upon assembly.
     
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    engine starting fluid and a match ;)

    One thing you can do that I've seen done successfully - let the preasure go. Get a tie down strap and wrap it around the tire - ratchet it down - and then put air to the tire... the tie down strap forces the bead into place... the air pops it in.
     
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    I've got air in the tire already thats not the problem. it's just seeping air all the way around the rim. A couple lbs an hour.
     
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    Yes - but putting preasure in the center of the tire forces the walls out... it helps you set the bead.

    You have to take the preasure out to wrap the tire down around it... when you add air now the preasure on the walls is stronger helping set the bead.
     
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    OK, thanks Woot I'll give it a shot
     
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    Thanks Woot that worked . Still had a couple seeps, but my dead blow hammer took care of that. Off to get it balanced tomorrow.
    Should have it all ready to ride then, except for my waiting for the yics tool to be sent out. Can't wait. It's been unseasonably warm here all winter, but I know as soon as I get her going all heck will break loose.
    Thanks again.
     
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    Great - :)

    Happy riding.
     
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    Next time.....take a bowl of water and add dishwashing liquid to it. Then smear this around the tire bead before airing it up. It will make the bead slick enough to slide up and seal and will even make it easier to mount the tire to the rim.
     

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