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"To ColorTune .. or, NOT to ColorTune. That is the question

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by RickCoMatic, Aug 16, 2006.

  1. RickCoMatic

    RickCoMatic Well-Known Member

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    1983 XJ750 Max 12,200 Original miles. Factory Pilot settings. Anti-mess-with-'em plugs -- still in place!! Seems to me that she's a-runnin' pretty dern whale.

    However ... this weekend, I am sponsoring a Carb Clinic. Every Tuning-Toy invented or needed is going to right here including 3 YICS tools and 2 ColorTune Plug-O-Rama's ...

    So it is ... that I ask of you: Do I pull a set of carbs I took hours cleaning, last week ... and I know are so perfectly clean ... that all they need is their butts powdered, stuffed into their jammies and kissed goodnight ...

    or ...

    Should I yank 'em ... pop-out the protectors and do "Dat Krazy Cullah-toon Thang"???

    Stand pat? Stay? Freeze? Chill?

    or,

    Git-id-own ... Bang-da-gong ... ColorTune ????
     
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    Re: "To ColorTune .. or, NOT to ColorTune. That is the ques

    This is a trick question isn't it Rick.


    Spent hours cleaning and they still possess the anti-mess plugs then they ain't clean :wink: Do it again! :twisted:


    Still, if it runs sweet enough and no plug problems the "If it ain't broke then don't fix it" cliche comes to mind.

    I think you'll have enough to do without tugging a good set of carbs out.


    Hope the weekend goes well.

    HG
     
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    Also a good chance your carb cleaner ate the orings inside the mixture screws.
    I'd pull and colortune.
     
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    I'm with JD - yank 'em and ditch those plugs. You know you're gonna try the colortune ('cos its there), and its gonna be way easier to adjust the mixture without those plugs in place when the colortune tells you that #3 is just a smidge lean and #1 is way fat. Besides, yankin carbs is FUN, FUN FUN!
     
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    Based on my experience don't even try to decide right now. Have your clinic and colortune a few bikes and then you will know if you want to do yours. You shouldn't have to pull the carbs to remove the mixture plugs. Just drill with a small bit and thread a drywall screw in and pull.
     
  6. RickCoMatic

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    Yea ... that's what I was figuring on doing. Get a bike or two all running tip-top ... see if the ColorTune is really a factor. My gut tells me that the optimum setting "Eyeballing-it" with a ColorTune Plug ... isn't going to be very far-off what I can get just doing them "Old School" -- Tweaking and listening.

    I guess some guy got tired of "Tweaking and listening" and decided to see what it looked like, in there, after he had it tweaked -- and the ColorTune Plug was born.
    +++++

    I've got this 750 Max Dialed-in really, really good. I leaned on it HARD, today -- just to see if it would run with the plastic-wrapped kids. I was amazed at how the 750 engine yanks. It seems to love being wound-out and screaming! I had the speedo needle parked before I grabbed fourth ... and she was still charging like a fire horse smellin' smoke! With the SlipStreamer 'HellFire' fairing working for me ... I had no wind pounding me in the chest telling me to slow-it-down. I'll bet a 750 will do a buck-twenty-five all-day with the oil cooler I added to the mil. Damn if I don't wish we had an Autobahn from Boston to Albany, NY! My best time was 3:12 (Downtown Boston to my Mothers in Saratoga Springs, NY) -- This Max could top that ... easy!
     
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    It is amazing to me as well - coming from a Honda 650 (shaft & water cooled) to this bike is an odd sensation (even after all the years). Right where the 652 2-cylinder would get noisey and weak (around 6k) the Yammy 4 just gets warmed up! I sounded like every kid with a toy car in their hands today...

    Waaaaa - waaaaaaaaaaaa - waaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    It was an awesome way to start the work day!

    I wish I had the time to come to MA, but I'm selling my house. If I leave to wrench for a weekend the wife kids (and checkbook) would be gone by the time I came back.

    If I could count on her leaving the bike title behind...

    ;' )
     
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    Oh yeah - Whether tis nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of running rich or lean...
     
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    Oh....an autobahn in America!!!!!! Drool, slobber, drool, pant and gasp. :p
    Mine really loves to cruise above 75. Smooths out and begs for more. If I ever buy a new V twin it is the throttle and engine yanking of these I will miss. I just don't want to give it up. 8)
     
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    We've got two sections of highway up here (97 and 22) that run almost from Banff to Jasper (Canadian Rockies, 300+km) with a bare minimum of traffic, towns, and cops. My Seca 750 will run effortlessly at 110mph all day long - seriously rapid transit! There's more 'go' in her at that speed, but the front end starts to get into that 'deteriorating stability' zone - I'd like to pin her with a small fairing fitted - 125 is just a throttle nudge away...
     
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    Yeah - there is a lot of fun to be had under 100mph. Once I hit about 75 it feels too much like the right wind blast could seperate me from my hand grips...

    I think it may be my severely upright positiion with the stock 'bullhorn' handlebars. I am looking at what I want to swap them with this weekend.
     
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    Look at the SlipStreamer Web site:

    http://www.slipstreamer.com/Product/Sport/sport.html

    Check-out the "Hellfire SS-24 Windshield / Fairing ... I have on on my Max. The wind protection is EXCELLENT. The product is exceptionally well engineered. Fits the Max like a tailored suit. I added a touch of thread locker to the mounting hdwe and have NO problems with it rattling loose.
    Makes those 80mph + adventures real comfortable without all that wind smacking you in the chest!
     
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    Well, Boys and Girls ... here we go. I popped-out the Factory Plugs and exposed the Pilot Screws. The RedSox and Yankees are playing a Double-Header. I guess I can get both MasseyCycles ColorTuned before the weekend Carb Clinic.

    It won't be a large gathering. Many of those who said they'd be coming have let me know that their families need for cook-outs, and buddies paid-for green fees, preclude them from taking advantage of the Big Tune-Up Weekend. That leaves room for you!!!

    I'll be down in the shop, now ... I have to see what color the mixtures are burning in the 4-packs on my two bikes.
     
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    Man this is one great site. Now can you tell me what color tuning is about and is it hard to do. my bike runs great but when i start it I can smell gas fumes HEAVY. what does this mean besides it to rich and how do I go about fixing?
     
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    Re: "To ColorTune .. or, NOT to ColorTune. That is the ques

    At the top of the page you'll find 'Search' feature for the forum. It might be of some help when you need to find stuff in the forums.

    Anyhow, here are some links that may help answer your questions:
    http://www.carbtune.com/colortune.html
    http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=1201.html
     

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