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Oil level risen and smells like gasoline

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by ryanismyname, Dec 23, 2009.

  1. ryanismyname

    ryanismyname Member

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    I still haven't fixed the floats on my Seca 750 so it's still running VERY rich. I've stopped riding it but tonight I took it out for a quick spin because I was out of the country last week and am leaving town again tomorrow. It's been real cold here and I don't want to kill the battery.

    I checked the oil level after a 10 minute ride and saw that it was above the top of the sight window. I assumed gas entered the case and sure enough the fill hole reeked of gas. I know the engine is running real rich but how is that much gas getting inside to the oil pan?

    Now I'm really through riding it until I fix the carbs.
     
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    wizard Active Member

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    It goes down the cylinders.
    Pull the fuel line & check the petcock is shutting off.
     
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    Just realized I posted this in the wrong section. Whooops.

    Thanks. I will check the petcock.
     
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    RickCoMatic Well-Known Member

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    Until you can get to the root problem ... you can get a Briggs & Stratton Fuel Line Shut-Off Valve at a Hardware Store and install it next to the Petcock.

    Cheap quick fix until you deal with the Petcock Leak.
    They come straight line or right angle.
     
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    bigfitz52 Well-Known Member Premium Member

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    Ryan; It's a two-pronged problem. If everything was working correctly, you could (theoretically) leave it on PRI all the time and the floats would shut off the flow. It takes a float problem (may not be adjustment, could be crud) AND a leaky petcock to fill the crankcase with gas.
     
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    Rut Ro Raggy! That sucks....

    Rob
     
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    A black plug might tell on the leaky float.
     
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    Quoting bigfitz52 “It's a two-pronged problem”

    2 of the following have to happen at the same time.

    Defective petcock (I had/have this problem)

    Non floating float/s (a Yamaha mechanic told me he had seen some bad black floats)

    Improperly adjusted float (I had this)

    One or more leaking needle seat/s (I had this)

    Edit Quote: “It's a two, three or four-pronged problem”

    ab
     
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    Ryan, pull the battery, take it inside your house and put it on a trickle charger or battery conditioner. This will help it last!

    Loren
     
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    Thanks for your suggestions. I'm positive the floats need to be adjusted, as all 4 plugs are black. I just didn't realize mis-adjusted floats would let THAT much gasoline past the piston. Once we have a day above the 30's I'll take the carbs off again and adjust the floats, put in new plugs, and change the oil.
     
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    You can save yourself a little time by checking the float level now- - "as-is" then see if at least ONE of your carbs is close, or right on, then adjust the other 3 to match, then re-check on the bench.
     
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    All 4 plugs are fouled, so wouldn't that mean all 4 floats are set too high?
     
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    No, It means you are getting too much fuel.
    It COULD mean all 4 floats are set equally wrong.
    It could mean all 4 pilots are set wrong.
    It could mean you have a pluged air filter.
    it could mean your "choke" doesn't close.
    It could be due to a crankcase full of gas, the vapors make you run rich.

    It's a process of elimination.
     
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    Ok. Thanks.

    I know it's not the choke sticking because I disassembled that entire linkage, cleaned and polished it, and checked it when I rebuilt the carbs. The pilots were set to the factory setting, and the airfilters aren't clogged. I have pods and they were all checked during the rebuild.
     
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    Add: Diaphragm Pistons failing to descend do to Oxidation in the Bores.

    Start at the Petcock and Troubleshoot your way down through the Carbs.
    Approaching 25-30 Years on everything is reason enough to need to not overlook anything in the process.

    Its a good excuse for exchanging the fasteners holding the Fuel Bowls and Carb Hats for new ones.
     

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