Who here DOESN'T mind getting passed?

Humor... Some people have it. Some don't. But the worst ones are the ones that think they have it......BUT DON'T. Sick Sick SICK!!
This IS NOT Humor. This guy is here to get a rise out of as many people as possible. He got his laugh..... for now. I've seen it too many times on other forums.

 

It's like when Daddy hits Mommy at the dinner table but you try to keep eating as if there's nothing wrong...

 

Again, you misrepresent what I said to meet your agenda.
I didn't say that *YOU* should be removed from society, I said "Yeah, people with the attitude like you described *are* extremely dangerous ..." and should be removed from society.

Before reading this latest fraud of an
"open minded" tongue-in-cheek series, I had slightly modified my post to put some further emphasis and to complete the thought about removing from society lest some moron think that I meant they should be shut up in a dark hole somewhere never to be let out. I guess I was too late.

So, you agree with me, cool.

Harmless? I believe the reactions you have invoked clearly show that your "fun" was less than harmless. Most "experimental" subjects who do not received or give *INFORMED* consent resent being played with. This is why such "experiementation" is banned in psychological circles as being *HIGHLY* unethical.

Again with the disingenuos slurs. You still fail to credit my initial statement where I clearly stated "IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS". All of the subsequent statements I made are based upon this premise. If you *WEREN"T* serious about it, then *CLEARLY* the statements I made DIDN'T apply to YOU, but rather, to the people who behave like you described, whether they drive a motorcycle, a cage, or a big wheel.

And yet, we are guilty of prejudice, being judgemental, etc., because we took *YOUR* words at face value when you didn't state at the time of post that it was tongue-in-cheek. Sure, you have shoveled that line *SINCE* the original post and I take the original post as that, NOW - and allowed for it originally. You also fail to comprehend that other people didn't see it as less than a truthful statement of how you behave could have been misled, and so we are guilty for not having read your mind or having seen what *you* considered to be "obvious".

You want us to take you humorously, but then fail to allow the same of others, such as my comment regarding the wrench.

Perhaps you fail to comprehend that we *HAVE* experienced *REAL* people who *TRULY* believe and *ACT* as you describe and that they scare the *hell* out of the rest of us or that we might be touchy about the memories invoked at seeing the consequences of such behavior!

Please come back and speak with judgement of me (and others) *after* you have personally pulled at *least* a half dozen broken and smashed bodies from wreckage and dealt with the emotional, mental, and physical trauma to those others involved which have resulted from the very behavior you "pretended".

How people will see and respond to such posts is highly dependent upon their lebenserfahrung and does not speak negatively of them.

When I was about 20 years old, I had a habit of wearing a black, full length trenchcoat, something I had picked up on one of my trips to East Germany. Similarly, I enjoy wearing "old style" hats - like those worn in the 30's and 40's.

This one day my hat was, of course, black and in a style to match the coat of a similar era of design.

[edit] I was living in (West) Germany) and ... [/edit]
I was entering into the base cafeteria, saw my friend sitting at a table, approached him, pulled out my wallet that I carried in a chest pocket and was in size and shape of a credential holder, flipped it open as though to flash a badge (where my ID looked just like part of a credential set) and spoke in nearly flawless Bayerish Deutsch, "Schutzstaffel, kommen mit mir."

Between the two of us, knowing who and what we were, it was perfectly harmless and taken as pure humor.

Imagine the feelings, however of the 70 year old German woman sitting a few feet away whom I hadn't noticed previously. I saw the look of first horror, then outrage come over her face. I saw it become something of a hard, cold stare of hatred.

Surely, 99% of the population under 45 would have taken that as it was, a humorous exchange between friends.

But this woman, she had lived through the terror of hearing such words. Almost certainly had friends or relatives who had experienced the knock on the door ...

I could not fault her for her feelings. Even though it was in totally harmless fun between friends, I was deeply ashamed for the feelings and memories I had invoked.

Perhaps you could try to open your mind and comprehend the mindset of people older, wiser, more experienced than you, who have experienced or seen the tragedies that result from the behavior you described and claimed for yourself, and somehow come up with a little more understanding as to why we might be a tad sensitive to such idiocy and not appreciate being a part of your "social experiment". Perhaps you might be a little less premptively judgemental when your "experiment" evokes responses that you consider to be less than reasonable.

Until that time, I dearly wish there was a frigging "bit-bucket" I could use for the forum. You'd be the sole resident.

 

Funny you should mention other forums.
I DID post this in another forum.
Got a TOTALLY different response.
Even those who disagreed did so ammicably or at least their jibes at me were laced with the same type of humor i used.

None of the "Dust up" would have happened if i wasn't being attacked and villified in here.

Tell you what: Here's the kind of man i really am.

For the rest of this post, i'm extending an olive branch to the membership.

I'll agree to live and let live, especially with tumbleweed, if y'all will do the same. I'll not wish ill for any of you.

I'll allow for a misinterpretation of y'alls intentions for me, if y'all will allow that maybe, just maybe, you misinterepreted mine.

I'm a Husband, father of two and owner of three dogs. I love them all.
I'm 45 years old and have "seen some things" too. I'm just not going to alter my life to suit each and every sensitivity i come across. It's impossible and not practical.
I generally ride 10 or so mph over, except in neighborhoods. I treat each and every motorcyclist as a brother or sister, regardless of type. If i came to your house, you'd find me a respectful, fun-loving guest and a pretty decent guy to call friend.
If i see you broke down on the side of the road, i'm stopping to lend a hand. Even after this little spat we're in, including Tumbleweed, if i knew it was him.
My last speeding ticket was many years ago.
This thread was born of my curiousity about the nature of being passed. Seems pretty polarizing in retrospect.
I simply prefer to pass than be passed. Pretty simple and quite harmless in the practice of it. I'm NOT riding around with a chip on my shoulder. I LOVE life and all it has to offer.

If y'all can find peace with that, then we'll share it together.

That's the true, unfiltered direction i'm coming from.

You ALL are welcome to ride in that direction with me.

 

I, for one, have absolutely no problem with being passed, and will readily get out of the way and even assist others to pass me. If I am driving on a two lane road with people behind me, I will wave them around when it is safe to pass or pull over to allow them to proceed ahead of me. I will, however get extremely upset with you if you pass me only to slow down and go slower than I was going in the first place. The jerks who do stuff like that make me wish for a paintball gun full of quick dry enamel paint balls so that I could splatter there car with a mess that would require a new paint job to correct.

Yes, I have little tolerance for those who are discourteous or dangerous to others or me, especially when I go out of my way to extend courtesy.

I do take great umbrage with your statement of being attacked and villified. You deliberately presented the image of a dangerous fool and then those of us who express unpleasantness about such behavior are "attacking and villifying" even while you in turn lampoon and ridicule them. You *BLAME* us for the "dust up" you deliberately caused. At the *VERY* least, you should have been mature enough to recognize it was not *YOU* the person that evoked the response, but rather the image you deliberately presented. But instead, you blame us for any "hostility", me in particular. Grow up and take responsibilty for what you do and say. An apology was in order from you, not an attempt to justify yourself. You only did so in your own eyes. I believe the rest of us see the post and your subsequent posts for what they are.


Do you *truly* fail to see the hypocrisy? Are you really that blind?

As for me, I don't bear grudges. I'll probably forget about this by the end of the day, maybe tomorrow, and go on. But if there was a bit bucket, you'd be in it. I don't like trolls and that is exactly what you did. First you pretended to be a dangerous moron, then you claimed troll when others objected to that which you pretended. Either is offensive and cause to be blocked, not out of grudge, but simply to eliminate chaff and idiocy.

 

There are times when I go faster, almost exclusively during the commute to/from work, simply because in less than a week I'd be a casualty of someone's road rage for riding on the freeway at that speed. It really isn't much fun at [high] speed [over 70], simply because of the wind buffeting me around. In the same way there is an exponential decline in mpg as a result of drag, there is an exponential increase in the amount of wind force acting on me personally.

55/60 is just about perfect for riding around without a windshield, 45 aint bad either.

 

What's with the "Y'all"?? What are you insinuating. Or should we NOT assume anything??

If you would have just posted the Question, "Who DON'T like being passed" without all the the other bullshit, NONE of this would have happened in the first place. SO SOME people wouldn't ASSUME what you wrote to be legitimate and on the "up & up". There would be NO ASSUMING your an asshole driver.
Maybe you should post about a nice ride you and wife took or how that BJ was on Saturday night. Maybe we could find some humor in that. Only it wouldn't be a "TONGUE" in cheek "post"

BTW your NOT invited to our house for the BBQ next weekend.

 

So this is how olive branches are met in here?

Got it.

Ryder,
You really couldn't see where my heart is at, from my last post?
The y'all is intended for those who vehemently disagreed with me or took offense and personally assailed me.
I'm pretty sure i laid my cards out on the table in my last post and was pretty clear about my intentions.

Mike,
I had composed a calm rational retort to your last post but don't see much further point in it, so i'm declining.
When i extend the hand of peace, in an effort to end hostility, it's genuine and i won't return to the argument.
I truly wanted peace and an agreement to disagree, with the hope of finding other, pleasant common ground.
The mere continued defense of my position, or exposure of yours, would continue hostility and strain hope of reconcilliation. I'm not willing to do that.

I do, however, learn from the responses i receive.

 

You interpret all disagreement as hositlity. You have a very narrow mind.

You accuse me of being less than rational while failing to see the rational statements I make trying to get you to see why others might have had a negative response to the image you presented.

You call for peace in the same post in which you falsely accuse others for attacking and villifying you and claim injury when I respond to your falsehood.

You state you had a calm rational retort to my statements. Do you understand the words you use? Do you know what a "retort" is? A retort, by definition, is contrary to the nature of "calm and rational". Your lack of comprehension of word definitions and meanings goes a long way to explain your responses to others.

You claim rationality while impugning the rationality of others.

You accuse me of weasling around statements I make while clearly failing to comprehend the precision with which I use words and statements. I seroiusly suspect that I used a number of words and phrases that you do not fully comprehend. Clearly, you fail to understand a statement of a base premise upon which all other statements are conditioned: IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT YOU [SAID/WROTE/WHATEVER]: ...

Do yourself a favor. Take the chip off your shoulder, a deep breath, and go back and reread the posts I made this afternoon. You are impugning my motives, my rationality, my willingness to disagree peacefully, while claiming the "moral highground" for yourself and accusing me of riding my high-horse.

As I said, you *blame* me for being offended by the image you presented and fail utterly to comprehend why I would be offended by such an image or why I would resent being manipulated by a troll.

All the time, you assume an emotional, irrational mind behind statements that are so clearly worded with a strong comprehension of how to use the English language. Such language use should suggest to a base rational response in the first place. Emotional knee jerk response like you assume mine to be are not expressed with the caluculation I used in my words and statements.

All the hostility is in your imagination.
I resent being manipulated, misquoted, slandered, and otherwise accused of antisocial behavior, particularly by someone who clearly intends to invoke such and then attempts to justify his actions while spurning those who disagree with him.

Grow up!

 

Hammer, you say the original post was a jest, a farce. Ok, I accept that. Do concede that wilh the life experiences that many of us have had, that the character described by your original post was all too real and not an abstract absurdity. It is regretful that we have all had this dustup. RiderXJ and Tumbleweed, unless Hammer has posted like this previously, can we give him the benefit of the doubt and let this post die a deserved death? I hope I am not being to uppity seeing that I am new to this forum.

Perhaps the best thing woul be if this particular post is locked or disappears. This horse is dead. Beating it further will accomplish nothing.

Peace!!!

 

Really? Let's see. So far, by you alone, i've been called a troll, an idiot, chaff, of narrow mind, unable to understand words, phrases and possibly the entirety of the English language, unable to understand social concepts, i'm dangerous, hypocritical and i have serious mental issues and need counseling and should be banned to a bit bucket.

Hostility only in my mind? Really?

Once again, i will not retort.
re·tort 1 (r-tôrt)
v. re·tort·ed, re·tort·ing, re·torts
v.tr.
1.
a. To reply, especially to answer in a quick, caustic, or witty manner. See Synonyms at answer.
b. To present a counterargument to.
2. To return in kind; pay back.

Please refert to definition 1.b. for my intended use of this English word.

You have now spit on my offer of peace twice. I shall not offer it a third time.
I am done with this thread.

Mike,
Feel free to remand me to your personal bit-bucket.

 

Inserted in to the conversation with the timing of a comic genius. Dawsoner, you made me truly LMAO. (Too bad I had to read all the BS to make your comment funny as all get out).

Sick. Funny as hell, but Sick.

Biff, he got you. He's setting back with a smug look on his face thinking, I got this guy so fired up he's ready to piss laserbeams.

 

You are right, KTCubed, although the humor you credit dawsoner completely escapes me.

He didn't get me like he thinks. I responded to the picture he painted with my thoughts, feelings, and experiences. I also clearly stated that if he meant what he wrote ... .

What he utterly fails to comprehend is that I have directly experienced the very behavior he describes in dreadful reatlity. I'd like to see him hold his cookies while he picks up the body of a rider who has been splattered all over the front of a car when both were going in excess of 70 miles an hour in opposite vectors. Or the face of little Tommy whose face smashed against the car window and now looks like bloody hamburger in the collision caused by someone who thought he was on his own personal race course. He is so totally self-righteous that he refuses to see the offensive nature of his behavior and absolutely unwilling to attribute to people's comments the statements and intent they have declared. And yet we are supposed to accept his taunts and jibes as harmless fun and offers of peace. I seriously doubt that if he arrived at an accident scene he would realize that the person sitting quietly to the side is in dramatically more danger than the person who is jumping up and down screaming about the pain they are in over the 4 in lac in their arm. I'd like to see him try to find a good vein for an IV in someone who has lost 4, 5, or more units of blood and is in life-threatening shock with blood all over the place.

He thinks it is injurious, for example, to call him a troll. And yet, that is exactly what he claims to have done: thrown out some bait and then trolled for reaction in order to lampoon those he thought over reacted or responded in a way he thinks is unreasonable. Then he whines about a rejected peace offering in the same post where is reiterates judgement and false statements regarding others.

Efigalaxie - I like your post.
I am not quite sure what we are supposed to do as far as giving him the benefit of the doubt ...

I can only say that this thread will not affect how I engage in other discussions with him. My posts were far calmer of emotion than he attributes. I tried to show him facts, I tried to get him to understand why such behavior (trolling) is offensive, I tried to get him to comprehend the experiences of others and why they might have said the things they did without being the less than rational, malevolently biased/prejudicial/judgemental people he makes them out to be.

Clearly, he has been unable to do so comprehend such. His loss. Doesn't affect me at all.

I do, however, enjoy engaging in ... hmmmm ... long exposes of the ... lack of *applied* intelligence/wisdom/empathy of others. <grin> It's just the Imp in me.

 

I don't mind being passed, so long as the passer doesn't use my lane to do it.

(Those of us who don't need to worry about our penis size do occasionally worry that it'll be run over.) :wink:

 

Yea MiCarl and the waters cold to right...

 

Seems like the deep water is always cold......

 

Gawd this has been going on for 9 days now. Everyone take your big girl pills and shut up already.

 

Hey!

He didn't admit he was trolling until the 8th. <grin>

I see him like the twit who pokes sticks at a caged wild animal, enjoying its torment, who then blames the taunted animal for biting a chunk out of his hand.

But I will be more than happy to ignore further attempts at trolling by him. <chuckle>

Have a great day.

 

gawd, I'm sorry to dig this thread up, but wow, never have I seen such horrendous behavior on this forum.

here's a video related to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bMLrA_0 ... re=related

 

Never seen this thread before on the forums or I might just have missed it but what funny shit it was to read very funny actually how some people freak about such minor things in life that are not even worth freaking out over anyhow thanks for the LAUGHS.....
Fab

 

schooter,
you should have let this thread die.

 

All in favor of locking this thread say OOII !!

 

eye

 

oooiiiiii lock it

 

Wow, I just wasted the last 10 minutes of my life reading this garbage. Thanks guys....
although I must say I do see both sides of the...ummm...conversation

 

I just read this thread and suddenly realised the problem you've all been having that has created all the tension and aggression.
Your all riding on the wrong side of the road 8O

Ozzy Rod

 

OOII!! Lock it please!?

 

If I am going over the speed limit I can't stand being passed because it is usually by some show off kid who has been driving for a whole 7 months without having to have mommy in the minivan next to him. But I hate having someone on my ass more. I'll just go slower.

In regards to the poster of this thread... Well, this guy has a serious issue with being passed and it almost seems like something stemming from a place only a good psychologist can really touch on. But If I am going slow, pass me.

Can't stand pricks on the road or dumb people who can't drive because they are yackin' away or, worse yet, texting on the cell phone. But if I was passed by someone who was just doing it to be a jerk-off and does it in an attempt to endanger my safety, he might get his lips punched in at the next stop... honest to god!

Things happen too quickly on the road to be messing around.
For anybody with sense, you can do 1000 stupid, silly, goofy, tricky, and even cool stunts and tricks and jerk-off moves on the road and pull it off. You can do one well thought out trick, however, and it be the worst fail of your life.
And it always comes out of nowhere.

 

Now that i've had my poke LOCK this thread :lol:

 

OOII! I'm locking this thread.