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bike rpms failing

Discussion in 'Hangout Lounge' started by dangilomartin, Jun 4, 2010.

  1. dangilomartin

    dangilomartin New Member

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    So I bought a used xj600 1997 seca 2. About a week ago and I never rode a bike before and was learning on this bike. I am a super newbie. Now I need help on the choke and warming up the bike. Before I used the choke. My bike would go a few feet. In first gear. then bike would stall and die. Especailly if there was the slightest hill. Then the next day. I thought I warm the bike up pretty good. Then I pulled off. Went a mile down the rode. stoped. put it in first pulled off. It went three feet and rpm would go up. And bike stalled. I pulled over to the side. put the choke up. Revved it up real good. Then pulled off. Went another mile down the road. stoped turned pulled of. after the turn. I instantly same problem. rpms wont go up bike dies in the middle of the road. I push it to the side. This is life endanger. Please help what going on.
     
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    Polock Well-Known Member

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    the low speed circuit in your carbs is plugged up
    you can try some carb cleaner in the tank but your probably going to need to pull the carbs and clean them
    you didn't want to hear that, did ya ?
     
  3. sfra251

    sfra251 New Member

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    I had a similiar issue with my xj600 when i bought it...,, ended up takin carbs off bike and stripping down to find 1/2 inch of sludge in float chambers and No 1 carb starter jet stuck in the sludge in the bottom of the float chamber stopping the float operating properly....
    Sounds like you will need to strip and clean the carbs
    I managed to get bike up and running by doin this.
    Also bench sync'ing the carbs ( links on how to do this with pictures are on the site)
    Setting pilot screws to correct settings as spark plugs looked as black as a badgers ass and draining old crapy petrol out of the tank ( dirty brown with 2inches of water floating in the bottom).
    MOST IMPORTANTLY I DOWNLOADED A SERVICE MANUAL....links are on this site.
     
  4. RickCoMatic

    RickCoMatic Well-Known Member

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    When the Bike starts behaving like that, ... you can be relatively certain that you have a FUEL SUPPLY Problem.

    The solution requires removing the Carbs and thoroughly Cleaning them.
    You'll have to dismantle the Carbs to get into the places that grime collects.
    You'll have a bit more to do than most of us with Bikes that have a little less plumbing parts and less complicated procedures just too remove them to begin the Cleaning.

    As was mentioned earlier, you'll need a Workshop Manual. I recommend you buy a Genuine Factory Manual >>SPECIFIC<< to your Bike.
     
  5. dangilomartin

    dangilomartin New Member

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    wow I was so afraid of that. Do you think its possible to do this your self. Also does anyone know the general pricing of carbs getting clean.
     
  6. hogfiddles

    hogfiddles XJ-Wizard, Host-Central NY Carb Clinic Moderator Premium Member

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    We've ALL been there and done that, scared to pul the carbs, pulled 'em anyway and learned how to clean 'em, and put them back in. Jump in, go slow and methodically, ask a lot of questions.

    The carb wall looming in front of you isn't that bad. We will help you scale it. When you finally get on the other side you'll realize it wasn't that bad. And, like many of us, you'll probably end up pulling them off again......and again............................................and again. Then you'll be like some of us and have a real disease called "I like to pull my carbs off". And, then you'll end up being one of the authorities on the subject. :)

    Again, go slowly and methodically. Remember, you still have a car to drive, so DON'T get frustrated and end up breaking something. slow, study, write down, learn, do.

    Have fun,

    Dave Fox
     
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    +1 on what hogfiddles says. Tear into them. Take a ton of pictures from every angle. If you think you have enough pictures during disassembly, take some more. You'll thank yourself when you are putting them back together. I'm willing to bet that you will want to hit the "that was easy" button after you dive in.

    You really need to do this yourself and not have to depend on paying a shop or someone else to clean them. You will never know how good a job they do and when you try to track down problems in the future, you will always wonder if your carbs were properly cleaned or not.

    If your like the rest of us, you will think you have cleaned them properly only to find you have to pull them again to do a better job. Take your time, keep a clean, organized workspace. The members on this forum are always friendly and helpful. Like hogfiddles says, if you need help, just ask.
     
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    RickCoMatic Well-Known Member

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    Doing all four of the Carbs at the same time can be very intimidating as the Parts pile-up in the bins.

    If you do one Carb at a time, ... you'll see how "The Big Picture" is divided into Bottom, Middle and Top.
    After you do the first one, do the second one, relying on your notes and pictures.

    By the time you get the second one done, ... you'll want to do both of the last two, just to finish the job and start Tuning.
     

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