???Coated Handlebars NOT GROUNDING STARTER SWITCH????

:?: ok so Ive been having problems with my starter switch after I replaced my handle bars??? The new bars are aluminum and are coated with a power paint like stuff (RED)...

Someone told me that if my bars are painted or coated with something that it WILL NOT GROUND THE STARTED SWITCH...???????

Please let me know if that is true or not, and if it is??? What can I do to ground the switch??? With a wire...down to the frame or something???

Any sugesstions would be greatly appreciated gents... :?: :?: :?: :!: :!: :!:

 

it grounds through the case..along with every other switch on the handle bars...

 

SO Alluminum bars are going to cause me problems then with grounding????

 

aluminum will conduct, but you are going to have to strip the coating off the bars from under the switches and at the clamps. You should beable to do it so you can hide the stripped sections without a problem

 

oh alright man sounds good...First thing Ill get into work and take the bars off and strip off all the paint... and take the bars all the way down to bare metal...Hopefully it works lol...

 

It should. That's a common situation a lot of us have done to ourselves.

 

You can also check the controls.......some have 5 wires coming out into the clip, and others have a 6th wire, which is a ground wire. If you have the ground wire, you don't have to worry about the bar ground, as it's covered by the wire.

I know the swap from the 550 to 650 had the extra wire in the 650. Don't know if it is the same for the 750.

FWIW...................

Dave F

 

Before you do that, you might want to verify that the bar itself is well grounded. On my XJ, the bars are mounted through soft bushing that can effectively insulate it. BTW, anywhere you find a solid-black-colored wire in an XJ harness, it's highly likely that it can be used as a ground source.

edit to add: Another good reason not to ground to your bars or anywhere else on your fork assembly is that this will cause current to flow throught your neck bearings. Current-flow is potentially harmful to bearings and is better avoided. Same applies to swing-arms.

 

Never heard THAT before. If there is indeed current flowing through the bearings, it's going to be minimal anyway, as these bikes are only 12v to begin with.

Dave F

 

Standard engineering stuff, Dave. It's only one of the reasons the guys at Yamaha (& others) provide extra ground conductors instead of going a "more expedient" route.

Take apart an old start-button switch (or any other sw) and look how much the contacts wear from "only 12V" passing through them.

 

thanks guy well I ended up taking the bars off aynways and got them down to bare metal with NO LUCK!!! still no start...so I wired up a hiddend startr switch under my tank and made a cool thing out of a shitty situation..thanks for the recomendations anyways..those stock light switches and stuff are coming off in the future anyways..

 

OK ONE MORE QUESTION DUDES....

If I wire up this Push Button Switch for my starter? Is it going to Obviously need to be nuetral and switch to RUN!!! But is anything going to inhibbit me from getting spark or iginition to my coils or anything like that? Anythin gin the harness other then the obviosu saftey switches(kickstand, nuetral)????

Thanks for any help with FINISHING up this problem...

 

A small-gage blue/white wire originally went from one of the two small solenoid teminals to the push botton where it could be momentarily grounded. If you simply replace that wire with one that runs to your new start button, nothing in the starter cut-off system will change. If you want to bypass the starter (neutral/clutch) cut-off circuit, you can replace the red/white wire to the other small solenoid terminal with one that is fused and hot when the key switch is on. Remember to insulate the ends of any hot wires you disconnect; following them to the other end and removing them altogether is a better practice, but is harder to do inside the harness. Does your bike have a kickstand safety? Need to know hot to easily bypass that so it can't disable the ignition?

 

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