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1stbike need finding help

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by swe-eet, Nov 25, 2012.

  1. swe-eet

    swe-eet Member

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    OK it a82 maxim and its my 1st bike. I found a few problems and fix them easy. My problems are this I For a fuel leak old owner said it might b the drain plug on carbs OK where r those located at ? Second I'd that's not it what else could it be both down hill carbs r wet?

    Lastly oil what kind can I use and in motor and rear end drive shaft and other things I should No
     
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    It could be the bowl gaskets. I doubt its the drain plugs. But they are at the bottom of the Carb. Chances are you are going to have to pull them off and rebuild them. Castrol 4t is a good oil to use for the engine.
     
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    swe-eet
    There are lots of people here that can help you but you really, REALLY need to get one or two different manuals for the bike. We also need more info about the bike, like does it run, how much do you know about bikes, is it titled in your name.
    Lots of help here but you need to tell us more.
     
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    My bad run good strong no spit no stalling nothing Just leaks and idles high but I could deal with the high idle. I no why it dose that but I dont want to really due carbs if I didn't have to even touch them. I heard rumors that they r a pain and I'm not a big fan of carbs . Sit me in front of a laptop hooked up to a efi car and ill tune it with my eye closed. Carbs are like seeing jona rivers naked(sorry if your a fan)

    But I don't see how title even matters on this matter but anywho I do have tank off and found the big fuel line clip was not fitting but I don't see it leaking there. But bowels yes I thought that too but I hate cargbs so I'm not sure if I should fix or Send off. Even on center stand it still those to carbs only and the boot on shaft is wet but I think it fuel tho.


    Thanks for the help and thank for reading my badly posted post PS I'm more of a car fan but I wanted change and I want the feel of freedom back and hope a bike dose it
     
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    I suppose you could clean the carbs off n then look for fresh gas to determine your leak. These carnal are not that biga pain. Imo. As long as you do em right. There's plenty of knowledge here to help u through them or anything you wish to do.
     
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    The reason I asked about the title is because many people pick up a bike without proper paperwork, put a bunch of money in it only to find that it is stolen, pay severe tax penalties, or have a bunch of trouble trying to get the title.
    So #1 on any bike project is to make sure the bike is legally in your name.
     
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    OT :
    Can a bike with plates be without a title?

    I mean when selling a bike here you always get the registration papers and sign it over to the new owner. Not doing so will make you responsible for taxes, fines etc etc. (I guess in country's where the plates follow the owner and not the vehicle there might be some other complications)
     
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    Back to OP's original issue:

    Carbs generally leak fuel if they are experiencing a float valve issue. If this is what's happening, then there is a very good chance that a LOT of that "leaking" gas is also going into the crankcase, polluting the oil.

    You have a 30+ year old motorcycle. Chances are that VERY LITTLE of any of the required maintenance was ever done on it. In order for you to be able to ride it and use it, reliably, you need to catch up on the maintenance; as well as "remediate" the effects of age on parts like seals, brake lines and pads, etc.

    You're going to need to pull and service the carbs, and get the valves in spec so you can then get the carbs adjusted correctly. Meanwhile you need to do a complete rebuild on the brakes, front and rear.

    It's not an old car. Old motorcycles are a different situation. Especially old, four-cylinder motorcycles that most shops won't touch.

    You've got some work to do; and for that you're going to need a service manual.

    Give this a read: http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=24010.html
     
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    swe-eet,

    Welcome.

    Gary
     
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    Well thanks for all the help but honestly I Still don't no what to do I guess ill have to spend more money then its worth cuz now it wont fire. Out of gas I think. Maybe ill just do stupid easy fix cuz all the other things wrong. Was stupid fix before I drop a lot of money. But thanks a lotyour hear from me soon
     
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    As far as spending money: Regardless of what the bike itself cost, it's going to run you between $600 ~ $800 in PARTS to get it running reliably and safe to ride. That amount doesn't include "cosmetics" and assumes that you'll be doing all of the work yourself.

    "Stupid/easy" fixes won't work, honest (unless it's out of gas.) But you still have a lot of work to do if you want to ride and USE a 30-year old bike.

    Don't mean to pee in your cornflakes; that's just the simple honest truth from somebody who's been through it more than once.

    If you''re not up to it, then just maybe a 30-year old bike wasn't your best choice. This simply isn't the best idea for everyone, and it's NOT quick nor easy. If you're truly up to it, then we're here to help.

    But you're still gonna need a book before all else.
     
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    swe-eet,

    Don't get discouraged. Listen to what these members are telling you. Since this is your first bike and it's a 30yr old bike a learning/wrenching process needs to take place. It's going to take time; however, whatever time you spend learning your bike will be rewarded in the end. Use what you already know to your advantage. Take those same principles/concepts you used to learn to tune a car's efi using a laptop to learn your bike. Your model specific knowledge, know how's, do's, don'ts and bread/butter moves are in your Manual(s) and Here. How many of your friends can honestly say they not only know how to ride their bikes but they know how to keep their bikes rideable? You said you still don't know what to do. To answer your question...the drain plug screws are located at the bottom of each carburetor. Sitting on your bike, your left hand is the left side of your bike. The carbs are numbered 1~4 from the left side. You should have two drain plug screws facing the left side of your bike and two facing the right side. Like BF said, if your carbs are leaking from the rubber boots connected to your airbox, which extends under your seat and has a air filter in it, it's probably also leaking fuel down into your crankcase which is not good for your engine. If this is happening and you continue to try to start your bike you could end up with a fire. You need to remove your oil filler cap and sniff for gas. If your oil smells like gas you will need new oil and a oil filter. This will continue to happen until you fix the problem inside your carbs. The drain plugs are not the source of your problem. Your problem is inside those bowls. Hope this helps.

    Gary
     
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    Yes it all did help still ain't 100% on leak honestly I have tank off and never did nothing yet I work much. But I do no oil smells like oil if itit smelled like anything others then That I wouldn't of got it. Old owner said drain plugs because he use to drain carbs. Only 2 r like this but thanks for the help. But this is the only problem bike has everything else has been fixed or redone already. And it diet do this I'm aware of till after I got it home. But thank to all y'all if u got links on normal jobs that need done to it that I over looked or any helpful tips let me no ill b getting a book tho cuz I love old stuff And hell I got 3 months of snow here soon anyways l.


    Only? More? I only got one answer what bout oil and stuff can normal castrol be used or is jaso recommended oil only to be usedused
     
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    JASO only; current automotive spec oils (including Castrol) can cause issues.

    If you're going to use Castrol, then you'll want 4T (motorcycle specific.) Yamaha recommends 20W40, you can run 20W50 (in "normal" temps.) If you're going to run the bike in cold weather, 10W30 is OK.

    Here's something "normal" that very importantly needs to be done every 5000 miles: http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=14827.html and Part Deux: http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=29209.html

    I would NOT take the previous owners' word on this one; check it yourself: http://xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic/t=15874.html
     
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    All I have to add is....

    Listen tio fitz.....
     
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    All this info helped a lot butu get what u pay for. And I got a good bike cheap and like someone said atleast I can say I did it
     

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