a complete idiot

well maybe not complete, he has the gear on.
http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=42283
of all the things not to do on a bike, this is one of the most overlooked.

 

Unreal. Like how the car driver checks out his car first.

 

What the hell was he trying to do?

As usual, truckers stop to help out.
The trucker got to the guy before the involved driver did.

Maz

 

I've read the story behind this.

The car driver is breaking the local traffic rules by staying in the left lane, which should be the passing lane.

The biker is being a moron, trying to "teach" the driver and explain the error of his ways while riding an unsafe distance in front of him. Predictably, car and bike meet, with predictable results.

The police assigned driver full responsibility, he is appealing this in court using the video as evidence of the biker causing the accident.

 

I thought I heard on another board that this was in Russia

 

It seems to be. What isn't so easy to see (because of the LED tail light on the bike) is that the motorcyclist "brake checked" the car.

 

Brake check or no brake check rear ending another vehicle here means 100% responsibility. Agreed that the cyclist was an idiot. After stopping the driver checks his front end before checking the other driver?! Doesn't attempt to warn other driver?! So wrong in so many ways.

 

It was. This is on the road form Kemerovo to Leninsk-Kuznetsky.


They are both morons, but the biker more so. Intentionally putting yourself in this position is an open invitation to Darwin.

 

That's true so far as the law is concerned (usually), but Physics says otherwise. The driver of the car was slowing down prior to the brake check (you can use the lane markers to figure his pace). There is simply no way that the car could slow enough to avoid the motorcycle, which was slowing at a rate close to double that of the car.

Neither operator is blameless, but I think the accident was 90% caused by the motorcyclist. He had already passed the car, and should have simply continued on his way. Sitting in the left lane is stupid (and illegal most places) but it isn't likely to get anyone killed.

I drove as part of my job for 12 years (averaging 70k miles per year for work + another 30k in my personal vehicle when not at work). Getting to where you want to go requires that you actually get to where you want to go. I never managed to save more than 5 minutes off my point-to-point time (whether urban or rural) by driving aggressively, so I gave that habit up very quickly. More than once I've caught up to aggressive drivers (rapid lane changes/ passing even if there isn't room); either at a rest stop, or at an exit. They're never more than three or four car lengths ahead of me, even after several hours of driving.

 

I completely agree that the aggressive behavior of the cyclist was wrong and led to the accident, but I think there is clearly many things wrong with the car driver also. Setting in the passing lane requiring others to pass on the right is illegal, dangerous, and stupid. Worrying about your front bumper when the cyclist is down and other traffic closing on him bothers me greatly. Percentages? 50/50? 70/30? I don't don't know and I am not sure it matters.

 

Thank god someone else has figured that out. I can't get my fiance to but before we lived together I tried driving 70mph on the 55mph roads to her house (hour away) and was getting ~20mpg in my old S10 but when I slowed down to 60mph I got there 5 minutes later and ~26mpg. Now we live in the "city" and there's six lanes with stop lights everywhere, I never go over 2k RPMs and catch up to all the idiots flying to the next light, sometimes I pass them as the light changes before I get there and they still have to start accelerating again.

And yeah, regardless of who is at fault, the driver still should have checked the motorcyclist. But I do believe in Ohio (where I grew up) that if you can prove that they hit their brakes for no reason than you can win it in court.

 

In Wisconsin it is clearly posted "slower traffic keep right".

Very few drivers heed that sign because they have their attention fixed on their cellphone! :evil: Or they feel they are more important then ANY other person on the road! :evil: :evil: :evil:

 

Sometimes shit happens and there nothing you could have done to prevent an accident.

In this case, smarter behaviour from one or both of them could have been enough to not make it happen.

 

This video is a perfect example of what happens when ignorance and stupidity cross paths.

 

I'm gonna disagree with some of you slightly here.... Yes the driver of the car was most likely not following local rules...

However, had the biker not been hellbent on trying to teach the driver a lesson/road rage, there would have been no accident.

Props to the (idiot) biker for ATGATT though

 

I would think that being a road raging douchebag is a given

 

I am a truck driver and run into this situation quite often. When you are overtaking another vehicle it is your responsibility to leave enough room in front of the vehicle you are overtaking for them to be able to stop. If you cut in front of me and then slam on your brakes for whatever reason and I rear end you, I should not be held accountable. Happened to me several years ago, young girl pulled out in front of me at a light, was on the brakes slowing down but she stopped in my lane to turn immediately left into a shopping center and I could not stop in time. There was even a left turn lane that she did not use. Lucky she heard the air horn and floored it and I only lightly bumped her. Another witness came to my defense and explained to her why it was her fault and she agreed.

The motorcycle obviously was not thinking straight, but anytime you overtake another vehicle, especially a truck, leave plenty of room. I always try to leave at least 50 yards, but a lot of times the cars behind me get inpatient and pass me on the right before I can get back over. Have also had people try to jump off an exit at the last second, jump in front of me and slam on the brakes because they can't get over right away, another good way to get rear ended. Ok rant over.

 

I completely agree T. I see it all the time in my area. Hell half the time they aren't even past the truck and start to blink. I want to dope slap every one. That said I am told the law is if you rear-end another vehicle it is your fault regardless. Perhaps if you could prove the circumstances there might be an exception but it would be an up hill battle.

 

Up here, A LOT of people have a love affair with driving in the middle lane of a 3 laner (400 series highways) It's quite a pita.

 

I don't know the statute # but I've read that you can't just jump on the brakes for no reason. Also, the Florida Governor refused to sign a bill that would allow cops to ticket "fast lane squatters". I give it 99% to the biker.
But this ain't Florida.