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anyone tried balancing beads in Tires?

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  1. Steve M.

    Steve M. Member

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    I know they use something like this in big truck tires anyone tried it on a bike?
     
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    k-moe Pie, Bacon, Bourbon. Moderator Premium Member

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    They do not, and cannot, balance a tire. They can, and will, erode the inside of the tire carcass.
     
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    I know they use something like that on the front tires of the trucks where I work.but it's more like sand and they put about four pounds in each tire.I didn't think it could really work using the ounce or two the add talked about.thanks Kmoe
     
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    all good except for the disclaimer what i am reading is this is temporary stuff until you get a tire plug

    Motorcycle Repair Kits vs ReplacementOur company takes the position that any repair to a motorcycle tire should be treated as a temporary repair. We recommend that as soon as possible after finding an object in your tire, you have the tire inspected by a professional. If the recommendation is for fixing the puncture or replacing the tire, then you should do so. Ride-On will not interfere with the application of conventional tire plug and patch repairs, and can easily be washed out of tires with water.
     
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    Agreed. But the his main purpose for getting the product was for balancing. I don't think this product is meant be a repair solution. I for one, like the idea as a temporary fix in order to avoid paying another $80 tow bill like had did the last time I got a flat. I don't like the idea of plugging a motorcycle tire either. I purchased a new replacement tire even though the punctured tire had only a couple of thousand miles on it and could have been repaired. I am thinking about using this but am still a bit leary about doing so.
     
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    What's wrong with just using a wheel weight like normal?
     
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    AAA card 150 mile tow no charge free roadside gas if I run out and with MC coverage it also covers RV towing , not that I own an rv but still can helpout a friend if their rv goes down or a stranger
     
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    Yeah, I had that at one time. I just decided against continuing it. Figured my roadside would be a U-Haul trailer for $20.00. But it happened on a Sunday, LOL. I'm thinking of buying a trailer instead. But none-the -less, I have roadside for the cars through my car insurance and didn't want to spend it for the bike(s) for the 3000 mi avg I put on every year.
     
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    Nothing wrong with it at all. However, this stuff does keep you from getting stuck with a flat. Unless the puncture is on the side. And it doesn't leave a mess like fix-a-flat.
     
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    Gotta say I disagree with with you K-moe....because they can and DO balance a tire....either that or all 4 of the tires I replaced 3 yrs ago just magically came out perfectly balanced. I used them on my 750 Maxim and my 750 Shadow, not even a hint of a shudder or shimmy and VooDoo has been north of 90mph and the shadow 85. Don't need any more speed than that so I'm satisfied with them. When I change Tires again (in a years or two) I'll let every one know if it chewed up the insides or not. They my not be for everyone, but they seem to have worked for me and I'll probably use them again..... just sayin... :D
     
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    Answering your question,For some reason I tend to lose wheel Weights especially stick on weights on the aluminum kawi wheels so I scratch the surface abit and use JB weld. That keeps them on.But o_OThen next time since the weight goes in a different place I'm polishing my wheels alot. And I have other things to do.:confused:Im about to Buy Tires again, and was kinda checking on what was available. I'm thinking about trying nitrogen too.anyone here tried that? :rolleyes: And one other thing I would never run A plug in a tire. Except to get some where that sells tires :cool:
     
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    Can't agree with you more Steve. When I got my flat I purchased a new tire. Between the new tire, tube and mounting and towing it was over $250.00, but worth it. I figure with only two wheels touching between myself and the pavement, it's just not worth risking it.
     
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    Some tires don't need any weight to balance. Rolly-polly beads do not balance tires. Rolly-polly beads bounce around. Active balancing of rotational masses requires that a very specific set of parameters be met, and roll-polly beads do not meet the specs. If they work for you, use them; but they aren't really doing what you think they are doing.

    As for tire sealants. Carry a plug kit. All of the tire sealants currently on the market are corrosive to aluminum, albeit only slightly corrosive due to buffering agents (buffering agents that have a limited lifespan).
     
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    I can't say enough about this. You'll also need a pump.:D
     
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    This again. Try this for yourself, with the tires you have now, wrap about six inches of plumbers solder around one of your wheel spokes and go for a ride.
     
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    Thanks for replying and I will put this in the something that doesn't work file.
     
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    Polock, can you explain how that works. ?You just got me curious.
    Alan
     
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    Personally, I can't even fathom how they could POSSIBLY even work
     
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    In the front Tires of the tractors
    at work they put about four pounds of what looks like sand. The idea is centrifugal force balances the wheel and tire. I can't see how the weight would know where go.but I'm not an engineer.
     
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    Not here.... We put sand, or calcium, etc... In our tractor tires for added weight. We don't drive our tractors nearly fast enough to worry about balancing them. There's so much bouncing and roughness in the fields that there's no way to notice anyway
     
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    try the solder thing, i think you'll find our wheels aren't that sensitive to being out of balance.
    do you ride a dirt bike? ever blast one with knobbies down the road wide open? how could the wheels be balanced, rim locks and all, just threw them on and rode.
    have you seen the youtube with the small tire mounted on springs free to move wherever it wants, then it balances itself? Our wheel can't move where it wants to in order to find balance. forks and swingarms don't work that way. Why can't a tire with beads be put on a spin balancer?
    Are there Michelin, Goodyear or Bridgestone brand beads?
     
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    Hogfiddles,I schould be more specific tractor trailer.
     
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    They are using the sand for ballast. Unless you guys are using a high road-gear in your tractors, they won't go fast enough for the tires to need balancing (I'm assuming you mean dirt-framing tractors).
     
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    Hmmm.... Interesting, at least
     
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    Yep. Now introduce bumps, and the balancing disappears.
    The one thing that Dynabeads never provides is real-world testing using lab-certified equipment (but they will swear up-and-down that such equipment cannot accurately measure what their product does; how convenient for them).
     
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    Maybe they could put a clear tire on a car and hook up a go-pro cam--- lol
     
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    What I was referring to was 18 wheel tractor trailers. Although I have a 1948 Ferguson TO. 30 it just has air in the Tires at least I hope so.
     
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    We put fluid in farm tractor tires for weight, but that only works to about 25 mph, after that speed the fluid can't stay at the bottom and the wheels would start to turn in an orbit, causing them to bounce about 3 feet off the ground.
    I read a story of a stock car racer trying it back in the 50's, must I been something to see !!
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