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Turn signal issues

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Stephen Perkins, Mar 7, 2018.

  1. Stephen Perkins

    Stephen Perkins New Member

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    Need help jst got my first bike everything works fine accept turn signals stay on in stead of flashing I noticed when one is on the other side has small glow inside bulb I have 6 w bulbs I kno they are too small wish I new before I naught the whole set can’t seem to find 27w bulb to fit the signal I jst got from Ebay was wondering if I get the to fast- aftermarket signal flasher from Ebay would I still be able to use these turn signals
     
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    if you go to auto parts store you can buy an adjustable flasher just get one that matches the t prongs that deal with the flashers third prong has to do with the self canceler you could add load resistors to bring wattage up.
    just guessingis bike a Maxim with single indicator in the cluster ?

    the indicator bulb grounds back through the oppisite side bulbs that is flashing
     
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    Yes it is a single baught one from hardware store today and when I put in flashers won’t even come on
     
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    you want a flasher for led/bulb most flashers work on heat developed by load of bulbs

    plenty of threads on this subject some flashers are made for many bulbs some for just 2 bulbs

    what bike ?
     
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    Yes the flasher I baught was for up to 6 bulb will send pic if that will help
     
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    1982 maxim 550
     
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    I put led turn signals on my 82 650 Maxim. Replaced stock flasher with aftermarket 2 prong electronic flasher designed for led bulbs, disconnected the self cancel relay since that wasn't super important to me and it's been working fine ever since. Actually I take that back, I added a load equalizer to each side and since that they have worked flawlessly
     
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    I jst baught these bobber flat black ones with slotted cover the whole set and would like to use them but the have only a 6w bulb in therm
     
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    image.jpg image.jpg Here is pic of flasher I baught today but when I plug in signals won’t even come on
     
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    I think you still don't have enough load. Buddy of mine used to work at Harley and got me a load equalizer. Basically a small box that gets wired inline with the turn signals. There's many different types out there but sounds to me like you need something along those lines to use what you have
     
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    it is just not a plug in and work thing you need a 2 prong flasher

    look at the connectors and see what is printed by the terminals.

    you are looking for load and supply and what the other prong is for
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    power to 49 output to 49a and add a ground , buy some quick disconnects to hook to flasher and male quich disconnects to plug into harness connector
     
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    At what location should the equalizer be wired in befor signal relay or after self canceled?
     
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    I also agree with what XJ550H said above. An equalizer would need to be wired into the wires that go to the signal itself. I mounted mine on the back of the airbox and tapped it in to both rear turn signals from there.
     
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    brown wire on harness connector is hot lead brown/white stripe is load hook remaining terminal to ground

    if unit will plug in correctly disconnect the canceler unit that would be the yellow green wire
     
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    Thank you don’t really kno much about bikes going off what a friend had mentioned will look it over tomaro
     
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    equalizers are load resistors used to bring wattage up
     
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    Now to front?
     
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    None sorry
     
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    I didn't need any on the front signals as it gave me an adequate amount of wattage for everything to function properly
     
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    Thanks advise muchly appreciated will give it a try
     
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    Also my turn signals came with three wires not currently using the third wire for running lights there is no third Plug for it on my bike
     
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    Correct. All you need are the signals unless for some reason you wanted them on for running lights but then you have to tap them into another circuit or create a circuit for them etc, etc. Let us know how it works out or ask more questions if you need to.
     
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    Another question when I install load equalizer will make bulbs blow were there are only 6w where the equalizer will be bringing the wattage up?
     
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    Yes. That is what they're designed to do. Basically increasing the load on the circuit to allow the flasher to flash as it should. If there isn't enough load, the light stays on solid
     
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    Could you seen me pic of yours so I have idea of how it’s suppose to be?
     
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    I can try when it get home tonight. It's hard to see but I'll do what I can. Here is a pic of some inline resistors I have. They didn't show up until after my buddy had gotten me the load equalizer(same basic principle) so I used the equalizer instead as I was on a time crunch.
     

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    E4804C34-485E-4975-81CB-E0C750742346.png Ok thanks wanted to see what wire u spliced them into as the one I jst order has three wires coming out of the box as in pic
     
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    I tried to get a pic but I just couldn't get it to turn out no matter what I tried. Here is what I believe you need to do, factory rear turn signal wires are green, brown, and two black wires. You need to hook all the black wires together, then either the green and brown to the other wires. Just have to make sure you have the sides correct so when you flip the switch the proper one comes on
     
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    Update we’ll i got my led turn signals and load equalizer yeasterday hooked all up and still same issue come on and won’t flash so I disconnected the yellow and green wire for self canceling unit now they come on and go off real quick jst let once and stay off I have been trying with original flasher I baught aftermarket 3 prong electronic flasher but can’t get that to work at all you guys were talking about a 2 prong flasher but how do I kno witch one to get tired of waisting money any help is appreciated
     
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    Fixed finally thanks everyone for all the help
     
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    What did you end up doing to get yours working? I've got LED signals on the back with a 2 prong flasher in place of the 3 prong that was under the tank. Mine will flash all of the turn signals, can't get it to do each side individually..
     
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    And you will also need to address the single indicator bulb and the problem presented by switching to LED bulbs - also covered in the above link by k-moe.
     
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    Josh what bike do you have?
    as stated by rooster , the remove the bulb and your lights should work correctlyndicator bulb when being used for the right side grounds through the left side bulb
     
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    I've got an 82 XJ650 Maxim. I had purchased a Tridon 552 flasher and when it was colder it seemed to work here and there with the indicator light still installed. Now that's it over 90 in Indiana, all I get are hazards. I'll pull the light and see if I can snag a different (more LED specific) 2 prong flasher.
     
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    the single indicator bulb is the problem . it grounds to the oppisite side bulb but to thehot side of the turn signals you turn on.
    so that 3 watt bulb hooks up to the hot of both left and right side blinkers voltage passes through the (what was) 27watt bulb to ground.
    what you have to do to solve your problem is simple.
    go to radio shack and buy 2 rectifier diodes. find the wire connector for the indicator bulb it should be dark green and chocolate wires, ( corrected wire color)
    cut the wires on the connector that go to main harness then you will solder a diode to each wire and reconnect to one of the wires (your choice) the other remaining wire that is still connected to the connector you will add a black wire for ground and attach it to a convienant ground point on frame , I would suggest the coil mounting bolt,
    then your directionals will work
     
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    this is what you have to do. doides 1N400X thpe X stands for 1,2,3,4,5,6, or the next wattage up at raido shack
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    the indicator bulb would (is ) connected between the wires called DG and CH
     
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    Any specifics on the load equalizer??
     
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    better to find an led flasher than load equalizers.

    biggest advantage to going led is to lessen the wattage consumption on the alternator.
    less wear and tear on alternator better gas mileage, quicker bike. Not that you will really notice the last 2 items
     
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