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Jetting the XJ550

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by manufan, Aug 9, 2008.

  1. manufan

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    I realize this has been discussed a time or 2. However, I'm still unsure of the best way to proceed. I have a stock, fairly low mile motor to which I'm adding a Jardine 4 into 1 exhaust and K & N individual air cleaners. Should I buy the Dynojet kit for the jetting change or should I buy a selection of main and pilot jets plus shims for the needle. The later would provide for more experimentation, but that could be bad too. Would someone like to list their jet combo for a similar set-up? Thanks
     
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    I did the DJ kit. It comes with stage 1 and 3. I'm going to try the stage 3 #144 jets. I have a Kerker with street baffle, and a K&N in the stock box. I hope to have it running in a few weeks. I'll have it dynoed to see where the AF is.
     
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    I looked on motorcyclecarbs.com and they have a guide for changing jet sizes for each aircleaner/exhaust option. With individual filters, and 4-1 exhaust, they suggest 122.5 main and 37.5 pilot. The DJ has a 144 main? That seems quite a jump from the stock 112.5.

    http://www.motorcyclecarbs.com/Jetting_ ... 43C551.cfm
     
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    I recall reading that the DynoJet jet-size numbering system bears no correspondence to the factory (Mikuni) jet-size numbering system........
     
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    Thanks Len, that would explain the difference. Would you have jet size suggestions?
     
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    chacal Moderator Moderator Supporting Vendor Premium Member

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    Hey Manu, all I have for re-jetting advice is "don't" but "if you're going to do it anyway, try this":

    WHAT ABOUT RE-JETTING FOR PODS, ETC?:

    It's a question we get asked often and unfortunately, one that we cannot answer honestly about your specific bike besides with "it depends".

    Which is a nice way of saying "you're about to enter the seventh circle of hell......."!

    Carb jet tuning required by aftermarket modifications is somewhat of a black art, part science, part skill, part luck. It depends on the current state of tune of your engine, your altitude, the mix of aftermarket parts on your bike, etc........a lot of variables.

    The best advice we can offer is: Just Say No. Don't do it! Leave everything stock!

    But, since most people---with good reason, I might add---don't always listen to our well-intentioned advice, then the next best recommendation we can offer is: "if you want more power get a bigger bike!".

    And since that doesn't cut it with many owners, either, for the remaining stalwarts out there who insist on "experimenting" with aftermarket intake and exhaust systems, here's the best information that we've come across to give you some GUIDANCE, which you should take as just that, and not as ANSWERS, because it isn't!





    MAIN FUEL JET SIZE CHANGES NEEDED PER TYPICAL MODIFICATION:


    Typical Exhaust Changes:

    +2 main fuel jet size for custom 4-into-2 exhaust

    or

    +4 main fuel jet sizes for 4-into-1 exhaust

    or

    +4 main jet sizes for no muffler (open headers)


    Typical Intake Changes:

    +2 main fuel jet sizes for single K&N filter (inside a stock airbox)

    or

    +2 main fuel jet size for drilling holes in the airbox with stock filter

    or

    +4 main fuel jet sizes for individual pod filters (no airbox)


    Additional changes:

    - Add up all the main fuel jet size increases and subtract 2 sizes.

    - Decrease main fuel jet size by 2 sizes per every 2000' above sea level.

    - Under a mis-match condition, such as when using pod filters with a 100% stock exhaust, or 4-into-1 header with stock filter and air box, then subtract 2 main fuel jet sizes.


    PILOT FUEL JET SIZES CHANGES NEEDED PER TYPICAL MODIFICATION:

    Pilot fuel jet size changes are related only to the change in main fuel jet sizes according to the main fuel jet size formula described above. Note that this pilot fuel jet rule is for the main fuel jet size change BEFORE any main fuel jet altitude compensation is factored in:

    Increase the pilot fuel jet size +1 for every +3 main fuel jet size increases.

    Additional changes:

    - Decrease pilot fuel jet size by 1 for every 6000' above sea level.



    PRECAUTIONS:

    - Make sure your carbs are in perfect working order before making jet changes....meaning fully cleaned internally and rebuilt, operating properly in their stock configuration, proper sized air jets and needles, etc.

    - Check plug color often and adjust as needed, 2 main fuel jet sizes at a time and 1 pilot fuel jet size at a time. Bright white plug insulators are a sign of an overly lean fuel mixture condition and WILL cause damage to your engine over time, up to and including engine seizure!

    - Synch the carbs after each jet change.

    - Make sure the floats are set correctly

    - Seriously consider purchasing a Colortune Plug Tuning kit.

    - You may find it necessary to make changes to the size or shimming of the main jet needle. There are no guidelines on what or how to do these changes, this is true trial-and-error tuning!




    EXAMPLE:

    A 1982 XJ750RJ Seca using an aftermarket Supertrapp 4-into-1 exhaust and a single K&N air filter in the stock, unmodified airbox. Bike is primarily operated at an altitude of 2600 feet above sea level.

    XJ750 Seca Stock Carb Settings:

    #120 Main Fuel Jet
    #40 Pilot Fuel Jet
    Y-13 Needle


    MAIN FUEL JET SIZE CALCULATIONS:

    Changes made:

    Exhaust:
    4 into 1 with Supertrapp = +4 Sizes Main Fuel Jet

    Intake:
    K&N Pod Filters = +4 sizes Main Fuel Jet
    ----------------------------
    Equals: +8 main fuel jet sizes above baseline
    Subtract: -2 main fuel jet size per formula above
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    Equals: +6 main fuel jet sizes due to modifications, thus:

    Stock main fuel jet size is: #120
    + 6 additional sizes
    = a #126 main fuel jet size
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    Subtract: -2 main fuel jet sizes for Altitude of 2500' Average

    = #126 calculated from above
    -2 jet sizes for altitude adjustment

    = a #124 main fuel jet size.


    PILOT FUEL JET SIZE CALCULATIONS:

    The formula is: +1 pilot jet size increase for every +3 main jet sizes increased.

    Stock pilot fuel jet size is: #40
    + 2 additional jet sizes (since we went up +6 main fuel jet sizes before the altitude compensation was factored in):

    = a #42 pilot fuel jet size.

    Note that no altitude compensation is needed on the pilot fuel jet since our elevation is less than 6000' a-s-l.


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    RESULT:

    A #124 Main and #42 Pilot is A GOOD STARTING POINT.

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    For further insights and understanding, the Holy Grail (meaning: the whole miserable, un-varnished truth of what a real chore carb tuning is going to be, written by people who actually know what they're talking about, rather than by people who are trying to sell you something) can be found at:

    www.factorypro.com

    and then click on the "Product Support/Technical Support" link at the top of the page, then on the "Motorcycle Tuning Tech" link, and then the "CV Carb Tuning" link........and then read, weep, study, and do....if you still dare to! As you will soon realize, it's takes quite a bit of effort to properly tune a carb to its optimal performance----another reason why we don't suggest using pods!
     

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