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'82 Seca 750 fairing question

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by mirco, Jan 14, 2009.

  1. mirco

    mirco Member

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    If anyone has the full fairing on a 750 seca, can you please tell me if your instrument cluster mounts to the fairing or does it still mount to the handlebars as it does on bikes with no fairing. On most bikes with fairings, the speedo mounts to the fairing but it does not appear that way to me with the 750 seca. I am taking advantage of the winter weather to fab up a fairing mount for a fairing that I bought off of ebay. I just about have the bracket figured out but I am unsure about the instrument cluster. It looks like I can leave it in its current position and still have clearance to swing back and forth inside the fairing but that is weird looking compared to other bikes. Thanks for the help.
    Joe
     
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    You leave the gauges where they are. I put a fairing on mine and had to make custom mounts, so I moved it both forward and up an inch. I needed the knee room.
     
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    TTR,
    Perfect! You're just the guy I need to talk to then. Ok - leave the guages where they are. Now what about the "ears" where the headlight mounts? What did you do with them? Did you cut them off?
     
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    I forgot about those !
    I just bent them in about 2 inches by hand.
    But remember, my fairing is not exactly where yours is, if you mounted it "stock" . How did you align it square? I had the lowers on mine, and measured to the crash bars. From those temporary mounts, the fairing pivoted into the place that worked for me.
     
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    The headlight ears can be turned inward and hooked together with a zip-tie (plastic electrical tie) to keep the in place and out of the way. Your instruments should clear the fairing when you turn if it's mounted properly.
    I had one on mine a few years back, before I bobbed it and it worked great for wind protection on those cold Minnesota mornings.
    Here's what it looked like back then:

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    Thanks for the help guys. I had bent the ears in just to see about getting an idea of placement for the fairing and to see if the instrument cluster would fit. I was planning on doing something more permanent but at the same time in the back of my mind I was thinking that I should try to leave them intact in case someone would ever want run the bike w/o the fairing. OK- so I will zip tie them in place.

    TTR, as far as how I squared up the fairing bracket I used the two M10x1.5 threaded holes on the down tubes that are about in line with the reflectors that are in front of the gas tank. For my bracket I am using
    1 1/2" angle iron with a couple of ears welded on the ends. These ears are what the fairing bracket will attach to. I run a machine shop out of my garage as a moonlight business so I made elongated holes in the bracket that I made so that I can shift the fairing side to side as needed for alignment purposes. Even with this porovision it has taken me three tries so far to get everything in the right place. I just keep welding things up or adding a piece here or there and I just about have it. The first time I was too far forward, the next time I was too low. Then I had the fairing pitched nose down a bit. So I am close - hopefully later today I will have a chance to make the last correction.

    Painter D, I am sure that Minnesota mornings are colder than Ohio morning but let me tell ya, I froze my you know what's off many mornings this past year and I am just too old for this kind of nonsense. I am going to leave the bobbers to you adventurous types and I am going to go merrily on my way - hiding behind my fairing. I'll tell ya what, if I could add heat to this thing I would. I been thinking that we could kind of ressurect the old VW beetle idea with the heater boxes off the exhaust pipes to get a little heat on those forsty mornings. We could just run them through the glove box ares of the fairings and blow that nice warm air right on our tummys :) Now that would be awesome!
     
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    I hear ya Mirco! A fairing does a pretty good job of making things warmer on those cold mornings for sure. Also, you can always add a pair of lowers to those fairings to make it work even better. Vetter made them for their fairings, and yu can still find them on Ebay once in awhile.
    I used to pick up and set my feet on the engine side cases to feel the engine heat. I still have fairly good protection with a windshield on my bobber with lowers on the forks to help to keep the updraft in check.
    Another mod you may want to look into which really works good for me, is a pair of those grip heaters that go under your hand grips. They are sold for snowmobiles here and are pretty easy to install. Just pull off the grips, peel off the backing and stick them to the handlebars. It seemed like when my hands got froze, the ride was pretty much a pain in the a$$. Now even if it's cold out, when I have warm hands, I can go all day. It's just a thought.
     
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    PainterD, heated grips sound like a good idea. Then all I need is a heated seat and heated foot pegs!

    I will keep my eye open for some heated grips. That sounds pretty cool.

    How long is your riding season in Minnesota? Braving the elements in northern Ohio we manage about six months - April thru Oct. Before and after that it is pretty hit or miss. I did take the bike out a couple of days after this past Christmas for a bit but it was pretty chilly.

    Thanks for your help and suggestions. Do you have pics of your bobber in the gallery?
     
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    I'd be surprised if the XJ generator had the output for heated handgrips. I too have a stock fairing to mount, but it looks more like a racing fairing. I was told it was stock for the XJ750 .. but who knows. It came with a mounting cage, which I haven't attached yet. (was going to get it painted first). Do you need a battery cover Painter D ? I have a spare.
     
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    Weretty much have the same riding season in Minnesota as you do down there in Ohio, maybe a bit shorter. This season is a big exception however. It started to cool off early and once it started to snow, it didn't stop. I've been out with the plow every week since the beginning of winter.
    For the past 4-5 years, I've been able to take the bike out atleast once every month thru out the winter months.
    The heated grips don't take as much as you might think. I also have a radio amplifier that runs all the time also. I do turn the heated grips off if I am in heavy traffic (going slow) and keep an eye on my amp meter (that's why I have one now) so I don't run my battery down. And being I replaced some of my lights with LEDs, it helps to keep more power for where I need it.
    Since I bobbed my bike a few years ago, I got rid of alot of the extra wires I don't need any more and spliced/heatshrinked all my plastic connectors. Those are the source of alot of electrical problems on these bikes.
    In the photo, you can see the toggle switch for the heated grips (high & low), a cigarette lighter I use while riding, and the volt meter I added to keep an eye on the condition of my battery.

    [​IMG]
     
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    Very nice installation! I have those little air cleaner's right off the carbs, so no air box, and I was thinking off installing another battery in the hole where the airbox used to sit. What do you think on that idea?
     
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    Will the alternator (stator) keep two batteries fully charged? It's not that the battery isn't big enough or have enough capacity. It's the fact that the stator can't keep up with alot of accessories. So if the alternator can't keep one battery charged up with too many accessories, how is it going to keep TWO batteries fully charged? That's my thought on the idea.
     
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    PainterD your right. After the bike is started and is above 2000 RPM's the battery becomes an accessory using power till charged.
     

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