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Cylinder misfire.

Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by Door dude, Sep 25, 2023.

  1. Door dude

    Door dude Active Member Premium Member

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    Hi guys, hope i can get a answer to this question. I have a very small, (slight) misfire in 1 or more cylinders, it happens at any steady rpm i have no clue. Is there a tool or a way that someone can locate the cylinder (s) that it is happening in? Thanks for any help.
     
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    Franz Well-Known Member

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    If you have a colourtune could you see with that?
     
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    how slight, like one misfire per second? one per 2-4 seconds?
     
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    you could try a set of these, they're not expensive, they fit between the sparkplug and the cap, and give a visible indication of the spark in the plug, though i had to modify mine because most xj sparkpugs dont use the caps, so i cut the caps of the top of the "testers" ,and fitted some 4mm threaded screws, to fit the caps
    https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/laser-2780-high-tension-lead-spark-tester/

    dunno if they are available over there
     
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    Dave in Ireland Well-Known Member

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    I didn't have an actual misfire on the GS, but it wasn't quite right.
    Yesterday I recieved one of these open gap testers and was able to find out what voltage each coil was putting out.
    It's not exact, as the ability to leap a given gap depends on humidity and temperature, but it showed that coil 1/4 was approx 20kV and coil 2/3 was about half that.
    I found the cause almost immediately, a crusty bullet connector on the LT side.
    Spark tester.PNG
     
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    bensalf Well-Known Member

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    thats a nice simple piece of kit Dave. where did you get it?
     
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    It does its little puff once every 3 to 5 seconds. I'm liking the info you guys are giving me, thanks.
     
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    Is the misfire occuring at startup from cold, or hot or both?
     
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    The misfire will happen at anytime the rpm"s are steady, hot or cold, low or high rpm. Dave that was shipped this morning should arrive on the 3rd. I ordered the high tension tester that bensalf showed also. I have a coulortune so maybe i can figure this out. I will update later.
     
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    My thought was an IR temp sensor diected onto the headers - I guess it would need to misfire badly though to show much difference.
     
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    Is that causing an issue or your just looking for perfection?

    @ 4000rpm that is 66.66 revolutions per second which is 133.33 sparks per second so a misfire every 3 seconds is 1 misfire per 400 good ones.
     
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    I was looking for a totally smooth sound ( perfection i guess ) I found the#3 cylinder was the culprit. #1,2,and 4 was shooting a spark 6 plus mm. and #3 could only shoot one about 4 mm. using the HAOSHI ignition spark tester. I took the #2&3 coil pack off and tested. Primary side was in spec secondary in spec also, but i found some dirt in the primary female connection so i cleaned And wham, bam, thank ya ma'am it runs as smooth as Tennessee whiskey. Ok ill stop. Thank you all for all of your ideas and advice.
     
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    You have given hope to many :) Dirt/corrosion = resistance
    Good find
     
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    .. ok so can any smart chap explain how this fault on the primary only affected #3 plug/HT and not #2 also?
     
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    Thats a good question. It might not be the dirt in the connection. I wonder if I tweaked the spark plug wire possible bad connection at the coil. Its running great.
     

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