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Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by joshs700n, Sep 6, 2014.

  1. joshs700n

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    Would a maxim x beat a cbr600f4 at some point?
     
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    On paper, no. But a better rider on the Maxim could hold his own against a mouth breathing throttle twister on the CBR.
     
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    Yes. The key is to pick the contest carefully. Ride from Denver to LA, stopping only for gas, and biology. Winner is the person who can walk upright at the end of the race. In the event of a tie, the tiebreaker will be sitting on a wooden bench; first person to "scooch" their butt is the loser.
     
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    Yeah yeah says the person who never even ridden or seen a maxim x
     
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    Remember what assume does?
     
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    Yup so why do you?
     
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    MaximX: 511 pounds/86 HP = 5.94 pounds per HP

    CBR600F4: 345 pounds/110 HP = 3.13 pounds per HP

    Math.



    There's also the nearly 30 MPH difference in top speed, more than a second difference in the 1/4 mile, and the huge disparity in lean angle, handling, and most importantly braking.

    The X is an awesome motorcycle, but it's also 15 years older than the CBR. A whole lot of engeneering happened in that 15 years. A better question would be if an X can beat an FZ700. That would be a much closer race to watch.
     
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    Still I wouldn't go by that the fact that a cbr929rr only gained 4-5 car lengths to 120 and he was redlining it I asked when we stopped and he said he only hit 3rd gear
     
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    He had two gears to go, and you didn't have any left. Think about that for a while.
     
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    Yeah Obviouslybi knew that but the fact that I could hold on till I had nothing left means I might be the one in front of the 600 to a certain point maybe up to 100 Or so
     
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    OK. That's a different question than I thought you were asking.
    My answer to that is; possibly. If you re talking about from a standing start then you might get ahead for a little bit, but that would be because of a difference in reaction time. There might be a point where you would be even, and maybe even ahead for a short while, due to gearing differences (but I don't think so with such a huge disparity in power to weight ratio). The long way woud be to do all the math for that (I won't be doing that). The better way would be to give it a try :)

    As s point of reference, the CBR929RR has a power to weight ratio of 2.8 pounds per HP. That's pretty darn close to that of the CBR600F4
     
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    How about a 750 sec a against the air cooled 700n
     
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    I way overtightened the rear chain tensioner on my virago 1000 and the motor seized up I think a guide popped out of its slot and jammed how hard of a job is this
     
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    I'd say it'd be nearly a dead heat. They weigh within three or four pounds of one another, and make nearly the same power (they do share the same basic engine after all). The 700 has a slight edge since it makes a couple more ponies (just how many more seems to depend on which magazine you look at). The recorded 1/4 mile times I have access to are within 0.2/ second of each other (edge to the Seca, but only just). If memory serves the 700 also has a few more MPH at the top end, so all other things being equal it would slowly pull away from the Seca.
     
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    I haven't been that far into a Virago, but I can have a look at my shop manual tomorrow. What can you see when you pull the cam chain tensioner?
     
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    Idk I haven't yet I just have the gold can cover off and It looks like the guide fell down in
     
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    Just to help me out. You have the type of adjustor that has a hex cap that is unscrewed, and not the type with two JIS screws holding the cap onto the tentioner and a black nub in the center. Is that correct?
     
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    Just to help me out. You have the type of adjustor that has a hex cap that is unscrewed, and not the type with two JIS screws holding the cap onto the tentioner and a black nub in the center. Is that correct?

    A quick look makes me think that by removing the tentioner body, and the cam gear cover, you should be able to use a long-reach hemostat (or similar tool) to get the guide back into place if it has indeed fallen out of its slot.

    I don't see how the tentioner piston could fall out, but if it did you can probably retrieve it with a magnet.
     
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    Its the one with the black nub in the middle
     
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    OK. That one can be removed just by undoing the allen head screws on either side of the tensioner body. To reset it you pop off that cap and use a screwdriver to turn the poston adjustor clockwise while pressing in on the piston. You should be able to see the guide through that hole, even if it did fall. Looking at the exploded view of the engine I can't see how it could have fallen, unless it broke. It looks to me like all years have a pivot shaft that holds the lower end of the tensioner-side guide. The guide on the opposite side looks like it just sits in place.

    Since it's late....did you make sure that it's not in gear? BTDT.
     

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