NOS drum brake shoes

Like the title states, I have discovered a pair of drum brake shoes that won't work for my xj550 maxim. Many months ago I purchased an assortment of parts from ebay (most of which were new old stock or new aftermarket) and these drum brakes were with the the package. Thinking I could use them on my 550 maxim, I saved them. Well I did some investigating today once I pulled them off the shelf and they aren't correct.

These brake shoes work for 550 secas. If you wanna check yourself the Part Number on the orginal sticker "Yamaha" with red and black coloring is 4G0-W2536-00-00 . Yes, there is a width difference between 550 seca drum brakes and 550 maxim drum brakes. Also included with the brakes would be the orginal plastic and description sticker on the plastic packaging.

This isn't my picture but it represents exactly what I have. Twenty ($20) bucks plus shipping in the lower 48 states and their yours. I have no need for these. Send me a pm or email



Oh, btw I have new correct drum brake shoes installed in my 550 maxim now too! Along with new chain & sprockets. Last year I checked the drum shoes for delamination as soon as I bought the bike and there was no bad signs. Rode the bike all summer and knew they were getting thin, so I changed them with new chain and sprockets today. 8)

 

I feel as if nobody has seen this, or else every member on here who has a seca 550 already changed their drum brake shoes... no takers?

 

I guess all these red warnings here and there were pretty effective in the end...

 

Why thank you sir, I try my best :lol:

But to be brutally honest, I wouldn't recommend selling those to anyone even if they were willing to buy. Even in their original packaging potentially 30 year old shoes could well have degraded & for your legal welfare I'd either bin them or keep them as a "souvenir".

Sorry :?

 

Unless those Brake Shoes have been exposed to the elements, ... they should be fine.

You can visually inspect Brake Shoes and determine if they have degraded.

If those Brake Shoes were stored in a temperature controlled environment and the linings show no deterioration, ... send them to me!

I'll put them to good use!

 

They'll only fit a 550 Seca or any of the later, "half an XJ" XS400s.

 

We have yet to determine the exact set of circumstance that cause delamination. It could have been a bad batch of glue for example.
It could be freezing - (none delaminated in Australia??)
How much humidity exposure causes delamination?? This would be hard to pin down, as we get our bikes 3rd hand.

 

Well. ... Brake Shoe delamination cannot be that prevalent of an issue.

It hasn't been discussed by the Motorcycling Press.
No recall or Technical Bulletin from the Manufacturer or Yamaha.
No action or warning from the National Transportation Safety Board.
No Class Action from any group affected.
No disclaimer or conditional warning literature included with the product at time of purchase.

Of those who found Rear Brake Pads to be delaminated; the Bikes they found the condition had occurred on were predominately orphaned, neglected, long-time sitters exposed to the elements.

To date, there are far less than 20 reported cases of delamination among
12,800+ registered in this forum.

Less than 20.
But, ... let's use 20 as the baseline.

If there were 20 cases of Rear Brake delaminantion reported by this Forum's membership, ... that would work-out to be: 0.15625 Percent

Let's round-off that figure.
The 5 makes the 2 a 3. Not affecting the 6.
The 6 increases the 5 to 6 ...
Increasing the 1 to .2 (point two)

DRUM BRAKE ISSUES PLEASE READ BEFORE YOU DIE, ... is a bit severe.
But, ... well intended.

QUIT SMOKING CIGARETTES BEFORE YOU DIE

 

I like that one!

 

MY XJs were 3-for-3 with delaminated brake shoes.

ONLY ONE of the three bikes spent any sort of appreciable time "exposed to the elements."

The one that had the "best" (garaged) storage situation was the one I discovered initially and wrote the delamination warning piece.

To date, if you read all of the replies to my original thread, PLUS the two or three additional "delam" threads, there have been a lot more than 20.

This is something that MUST be checked on any 30-year old bike; especially Yamahas since they are (now) known to exhibit the issue.

The only way to know is to look. NOT checking is simply playing "Russian Roulette" with your rear brake. Except you don't know if the gun is loaded or not.

 

Adhesives get old, or too hot, and fail. You'll never see it unless you look. Safe Braking

If it weren't a problem manufacturers wouldn't put time and money into finding a solution. Raybestos

 

i want this kind of brakes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2ayR004ie0
the question i have is why tell someone to check their, who knows how old, brake shoes for delamination. just put new ones on, you've already done the work.
for that matter shouldn't you check your new ones after a few hundred miles, aren't they made in China ?

 

guys I didn't intend for this thread to get so off topic and subjective. I only bumped my thread since I was surprised nobody wanted an extra set of drum shoes at a reasonable price. Let's keep the politics outta here since we all know this is starting to look like how Washington D.C. works everyday

Bigfitz is correct, these drum shoes fit other models, of which are not as popular on this site. A lot of new people on here are into the seca 550s from what I've seen so it was more or less a way to get their attention. I agree; its critical to check the current drum brake conditions if you haven't. Just like checking the everything on a motorcycle or any type of vehicle for that matter.

Rick is correct, these drum shoes are in great condition and do not appear to have any blemishes; I'd use them if they fit my bike(s). My legal welfare is fine. Any motorcycle part you buy from my doorstep is "As-Is" condition, pretty simple. So there won't be any litigations against me . And quite frankly isn't that how all items are sold on ebay or from chacal (if they are NOS)?

I'm stopping right there before I get myself anymore pissed off. Its been a rough day

 

Tis why i use either OEM or EBC shoes/pads on my bikes exclusively.

But like the op said, its a fs thread, not a pissing match.

OP's a chill guy who's just trying to hook someone up with a set of shoes for a good price, no sense to get on his case about the technicality of this or that.

 

If there were 200 instances ...
Within this Forum, ... it would still only be 1.5%

That's pretty slim.

I think the BEST advice to give someone who has recently acquired a 30-year old Bike is:

Don't bother CHECKING the Brakes!
OVERHAUL the whole shootin'-match, ... complete.

 

This is my theory - The shoes/pads were "fine" on both my maxim and seca when i acquired them, but screw that, my life depends on them and i have no idea of their history = new brakes all around.

 

Severe yes, but I bet people look sooner than if it read "DRUM BRAKE ISSUES, OCCURS ON 0.2% OF BIKES" :wink:

That said, I'll change to "before you ride"... Or get rid if you want?

And I know I should give up the cancer sticks, but I figure cagers over here will end up killing me before benzene or formaldehyde do :cry:

Anyway, apologies to moellear that the thread got derailed that was not the intention of my reply & if they seem fine well, fine. Guess I was just worried that people seem to sue for anything they can (and some they can't) these days. maybe a mod should delete the replies?

 

no problem sir, I'm glad the postings got back on track and everybody understands my story. in that regard, nobody has said anything about grabbing these pair. I would've thought $20 plus shipping was a fair price for drum shoes that I'd use on my bike(s) if they fit properly. nobody?