what brake parts am i missing? (pic inside)

I think I'm missing some brake pedal height parts. Can anyone help?

 

You do have the wrong footpeg. Have you done anything to the bike? The pedal may be stuck down, can you lift it up? It may be time to dissamble and lube the pivot and return spring. The return spring may also be broke.

 

the PO put those footpegs on. Is the brake pedal height stop attached to the OEM footpegs?

The pedal is not stuck down and it actuates the brake and returns to position. However, I have no way to adjust the pedal height as mentioned in all the manuals.

 

I'm no expert on the Secas, don't know how the pedal adjustment is linked to the footpeg..sorry

 

Hi. I have a 650 Seca and with the proper foot pegs the screw that you can see attatched to the brake lever in your pic comes up to a small square
plate which is part of the foot peg mount. I can adjust the height of my brake
lever by turning the screw in or out. You are going to have to get the proper
foot pegs and then take the brake lever off and put it back on the splines so
that the screw comes up under the foot peg stop where it is supposed to be.
Then you can start to adjust everything to where you want it. If you can get
the proper foot pegs you will be ok. Dont alter anything until you do as it will
probably all fit up ok but if you alter anything then it will not. I hope that this is
of some help.

 

Dang it's cold out there! I just popped out into the garage in my jammies and had a peek at my 650 Seca.

The footpeg mount is your problem; the original part is a large, beefy "S" shaped affair that has the pedal up-stop built into it. That is the wrong footpeg as well (it appears to be a passenger peg) but the mount is the key; and on the original the peg is part of it.

Good online fiche: http://www.yamahapartshouse.net/pages/p ... amaha.aspx

In the parts diagram for your bike, it's under "STAND - FOOTREST" and it's part of #3; you can see the shape I'm talking about.

Your best bet will be to track down the proper part; it's one of those cleverly-designed (and rather hefty) bits that has to be exactly the right shape. The only way to really duplicate it would be to have one to work from.

 

Here is a better picture of my "s" bracket for the footpeg.

 

Could you not just move the peddle up or down a few splines to get it where you like?

not stock but I think it would do the job.

 

You now know the answer to your problem. If you want a good ridable
motorcycle all the bodgey work done by the previous owners must now
be undone and the machine put back to its origional specs.

 

I'll get a picture of my (admittedly grubby) original 650 Seca's peg/brake lever when I get home, so you can see what I'm talking about.

It's very similar to your pic; a PO may have simply "reconfigured" (cut, ground and drilled) the original part, to bolt up the alternate peg.

 

Thanks bigfitz!

 

You won't believe this.

OK, I moved the Norton and I'm waiting for the garage to warm up enough that the camera won't fog up. So I figured I'd examine the bike closely.

LAME. Lame. lame. LAAAAAME.

The pedal screw stops against the peg bracket itself not the mount. !@#$%^&*!!! <having a Lewis Black moment...>

If you were to turn your (admittedly wrong) peg APPROXIMATELY 45* either way, and adjust the pedal so it comes all the way up and stops against it, it will probably WORK.

The original peg bracket was welded to the mount at an odd angle, just exactly the right angle to be at 90* to the screw when it comes up and hits it. You CAN "functionally duplicate" it, simply by rotating the peg itself a bit and adjusting the pedal so it comes up and stops against it.

Lame. (Not you, Yamaha.) Pics on way.

Oh, and no offense, don't forget I have a 650 Seca too.

 

ALRIGHTY THEN. I'm calling "shenanigans" on Yamaha for this one, here you go:



Note oddball approx 45-degree angle of peg/bracket itself, welded to mount, so pedal can come up and:



So you see how you might be able to make your current peg at least serve the purpose until you can source one?

{dammit. Every time I have to get close to that bike it reminds me of exactly how much work there is to do.}

 

Thanks for the info!

Now I need to find some better or stock footpegs but man those things aren't cheap!

 

Ok Fitz your starting to slip up, I hope all those other pristine bikes of yours don't have any rust on them. :lol: So you say this is a Yamaha missfunction or a PO's?

 

I'll chime in - it's Yamaha's fault for a slightly poor design. The height adjustment rests against the OEM footpeg, so if you swap pegs, you loose your height adjustment.

The PO of my bike put the crappy pegs on instead of replacing rubbers or fixing the stock ones.

 

Fitz Fitz Fitz Fitz You should be ashamed of yourself. Not for messing up everyone does it. You can't claim that bike is yours with the dirty rusty foot peg let alone the dry rot on the rubber. That could fall off going down the road and take out a deer or something. The last thing you need is the animal activists on your case. You would have to go out in disguise and ride one of the other bikes for a few days so they wouldn't catch you. You should of said it was a neighbors bike. Aren't you afraid the bad will jump off the 650 and spread thru the rest of the bikes like the plague lol Its just not like you. It must be your beater bike. Just kidding

Everyone looks to you for good advise even tho some do not listen to you

 

Guess they didn't want to put a adjustment plate that close to the peg for safety reasons or they thought they could save some dollars.

 

I was able to find a pair of used stock pegs on ebay for $25. Now just need to order new rubber grips from Len!

 

You have got to be kidding me - from the seller:

"Hey there,
I just went to pull your pegs and find out, somehow we've only got the rears. I am guessing someone shipped the wrong parts, no telling how long ago and the customer never contacted us about the error.
Unless you'd like the rear set, I'll have to shoot over a refund and file to cancel the transaction. WE are very sorry about the mistake on our end.
Thank you for understanding and replying to the email from eBay about the canceled transaction."

Is there any chance the Seca 550 footpegs would work?

 

A PO's as wrxg33k just confirmed.

MY 650 IS A RUSTBUCKET because the project has barely begun. All I've done thus far is gather parts to replaced the road-rashed or damaged stuff, and rebuilt a correct petcock for it.

IT WON'T BE RUSTY once it's done...

Nope, the 550 Seca footpegs are different altogether, bracket-wise. They won't even bolt up.

 

Hwy Wrxg, we should have a good used set of the correct front footpegs available (you'll want the new rubber for them though); we also have a used set that have the correct brackets, but someone has drilled out the pivot pin and replaced the stock peg/rubber with some fancy knurled aluminum round billet pegs (they won't accept rubber)....but, the brackets are correct.

Let me know if you're still looking for these.

 

The cutting and drilling and replacing is what eliminates the stock brake lever up-stop. That's what's been done to his bike already.

Seriously, this is one of those little Yamaha engineering "shortcuts" that are rare but infuriating nonetheless.

I still can't believe they're designed that way; the 550 Seca's upstop is built into the mechanism and stops the rotation of the shaft the lever clamps onto, hidden behind the sideplate out of the way and protected from the elements.

Shenanigans.

 

Fitz, do you know if the xj650 turbo uses the same footpegs?

 

The parts fiche: http://www.yamahapartshouse.net/pages/p ... parts.aspx says YES!!!

(Same part numbers.)

 

I believe mine has the correct pegs on it still and if you'd like I'll check and we can swap.

I have forward controls and just left the stock pegs for an alternate foot position on long rides. So the stop for the brake lever is of no concern to me. They could use new rubber but are servicable. I'll get pics on Sunday if you're interested. I'm out of town the next couple days.

 

Parts fiche says no, they're not the same pn (650 Maxim-650 Secas.) The turbo and the naturally aspirated Secas are the same; Max different.

 

Thanks fitz for saving me the time to dig the bike out. Still cold around here and it got pushed to the back of the shop.

 

Sweet! I grabbed a pair of turbo footpegs on ebay for $26 shipped!