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Discussion in 'XJ Technical Chat' started by xj650ss, Sep 8, 2008.

  1. xj650ss

    xj650ss Member

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    MY 82 MAXIM 650 won't start without a little persuasion from a can of starting fluid once its warm up, it starts, stops and runs fine. I already worked on the carbs, checked the petcock and checked the compression (about 100 per cyl) not sure where to look next.....anyone?
     
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    The starter jets in the bottom of the port of your fuel BOWL are clogged...most likely plugged solid as a rock..........common problem!

    Here a solution:

    z7) Aftermarket wire gauge Drill Bit for Bowl Starter Jet. As you will quickly discover if you ever try to clean or rebuild your Hitachi carbs, the tiny, non-removable starter jet that is stuck wa-a-a-y down at the bottom of a drilled passage in the carb bowl is next to impossible to clean. For one, did we mention that the jet opening is TINY? And did I also mention that it's stuck way down at the bottom of a small passageway, and basically unreachable? AND THEREFORE, NO ONE EVER REALLY EVEN ATTEMPTS TO CLEAN IT OUT? And that a clogged starter jet not only means trouble starting and idling, but that starter circuit is actually also involved in idle and off-idle performance? Well, how do you actually clean it? Even the tiniest cleaning rod in our HCP950 and HCP953 carb passage cleaning sets (above) aren't small enough to fit through this starter jet (it is THE smallest jet-passage in the entire carb)...

    Well, here's how you clean it: with this tiny drill bit. Just big enough to get through the jet, but not big enough to ENLARGE the jet (that's a huge no-no), this high-speed steel bit can be gently rotated (but never "pushed", as it will break) through the toughest of crud. This is the only way to properly clean these starter jets.

    NOTE: this is a TINY drill bit, and will not chuck into a standard drill chuck. You have to use a mini pin-vise attachment or do it carefully by hand...... ALSO: this drill bit is a mere 1-1/2" long, and as such, will disappear below the top "plane" of the bowl as it goes down into the jet. You will have to use a pair of very slim needle-nose pliers to grip the tip of this drill bit and rotate it!

    HCP2296 Starter Jet Clean-Out Drill Bit, for Hitachi carb bowls used on all XJ650 (except Turbo) models, all XJ700 non-X models, and all XJ750 models.
    $ 11.95


    P.S. how do you know when your starter jet is really, truly, zestfully clean? One of two ways:

    a) shine a strong penlight or mini flashlight into the bottom of the bowl, where this jet passage "intake" is located. Look through the top of the bowl down into the jet passage "outflow" passage (this is the passage that the brass suction tube in the bottom of the carb body actually fits down into). Focus your eye carefully on the jet opening and make sure it's clean. P.S. it helps to do all this while in a darkened area....

    http://www.xjbikes.com/Forums/viewtopic ... rt=15.html


    b) put the spray tip (you may have to gently shape the end of it to a fine point) of a can of carb or brake cleaner into the intake opening of the starter jet and let rip a spray. A STEADY, FINE, POWERFUL STREAM OF FLUID WILL COME OUT OF THE OUTFLOW PASSAGE ON THE TOP OF THE CARB BOWL IF THE JET IS PERFECTLY CLEAN AND OPEN. I mean this stream will absolutely spit out a good 5-10 feet. If the stream isn't powerful and laser-like precise coming out of the jet, then the jet isn't zestfully clean.....

    BTW, when using the spray-stream method of checking the jet, don't even THINK of putting your eye or face anywhere even NEAR the jet outflow path, unless you like a painful and potentially serious trip to the emergency room.
     
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    That was my project for last weekend everything went as smooth as can be expected and checked good with the light and the spray but still no cold start
     

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